Data not entirely accurate.
Flexi Line at Jetstar- overtime starts at 56hours A320 Endo is currently $41,000. salary sacrifice over 33 months. Approx repayments are just over 1200/month Pre Tax. So over the course of the three years you are really only paying about $30k or so due to the tax benifit. Gone fishin, I disagree, this shows "market rates" and that is important to make an informed decision on future employment. Look for example the pay disparity between Jetstar and Tiger/virgin. Currently about 40-50k behind "market rates" for a skipper on a narrow body. In a few years with a freeze it will be more like 70-80k behind. Yea money isnt everything but im sure when we are talking that much disparity it doesnt matter how many more days or whatever you get off its the dollars that count. |
Gone fishing-very much disagree. Everyones Lifestyle vs $$ balance requirement is different. Public knowledge of what is available where is thus very important.
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Its not a pissing contest, its knowledge of what you should not accept less than (after considering lifestyle factors) in your next EA.
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Would anyone care to include some EnZed figures, given the exchange rate now being closer ($1.07).
Not interested in a slagging match here please, just stats... there are plenty of other threads already, where you can "put the gloves on". Air NZ & Regionals Virgin Oz(NZ) Jitconnect Vincent Airwork etc. |
Tight-lipped kiwis, bro'.
Looks like they're gun shy. :rolleyes: |
Network... Anyone got any figures? Especially the FO pay?
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Virgin NZ
Captain (NZD) $153,000 to $190,000 F/O (NZD) $90,600 to $117, 600 Overtime at 71 hrs. |
PM'd to me, the following (thank you):
VANZ (previously Pac Blue) 2014 base 737 CA $161,200 NZD 737 FO $ 94,780 NZD Air NZ (NZD) B737-300 CA $142,800 FO $96,200 A320 CA $169,800 FO $110,100 B767 CA $185,800 FO $120,400 SO $96,200 B787 CA $203,100 FO $131,600 SO $96,200 B77-200ER CA $219,200 FO $142,100 B777-300ER CA $236,800 FO $153,500 SO $96,200 B747 CA $240,700 FO $156,000 SO $96,200 JetConnect (NZD) B737 CA $160,600 FO $ 91,900 Jetstar NZ (NZD) A320 CA $170,000 FO $ 93,000 *************** |
Not sure where you got those Air NZ numbers from but they don't match any documentation I have
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"Air NZ salaries are effective 07 Apr 2014, base only, year 1, NZD, straight from the FEDERATION OF AIR NEW ZEALAND PILOTS 2013 contract."
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Perhaps to get a true appreciation of pay disparities between carriers we should extend this tread to include airline CEO wages.
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I guess that there are probably some agreements due for renegotiation in the next 18 months. Possibly a good time to revisit and update this thread.
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Another PM'd to me thanks.
JETGO Australia ERJ135 Pay Rates Captain $122,000 plus allowances plus 10% Super FO $75,000 plus same Endorsement Salary sacrificed at around $35K over two years. |
Strategic 320 F/O - 113
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Regional Express as per new EBA which is now awaiting approval from FWC after successful vote.
Base rates years 1-10 as of July 1 2016 F/O 57,000 - 70,000 Cap 91000 - 114000 +2.5% per year until 2018 |
Noted that Air Niugini is not an Australian Airline, but there are many Aussies working up there, and a lot of its recruitment is directed at Australian pilots, so ANG is relevant in the thread (IMHO anyway)
(The Contracted salary and tax rates are in PGK (KINA) but paid in $AUD at the exchange rate of the day. All these figures are in $AUD having been converted at an indicative exchange rate of .40c. If the exchange rate goes up you get more, if it goes down you get less AUD. The exchange rate today is .41c) SALARY DH8 Captain $110,295 First Officer $47,063 400 Captain $122,088 First Officer $74,949 F100 Captain $143,958 First Officer $99,955 737 Captain $163,544 First Officer $107,746 767 Captain $174,135 First Officer $127,072 SUPERANNUATION Nil TAX PNG Kina Tax figure converted to $AUD at .40c. Tax on $28,000 is $8,564 then 40% on every dollar over $28,000 up to $99,999. Tax on $100, 000 is $37,364 and the 42% on every dollar over $100,00. Eg: 737 Captain will GROSS $163, 544, pay TAX of $64, 052 and NET $99,492 ($AUD8,291 / $USD6,316 per mth) without any super paid by the Company. To put the salary into perspective: Using the figures quoted at Post 213 and the online ATO tax calculator, the ERJ 135 Captain will net $AUD 88,913 and receive $12,000 in super, a total package to $100,913 ($1,421 pa more than the PX B737 Captain). |
JETGO Australia ERJ135 Pay Rates Captain $122,000 plus allowances plus 10% Super FO $75,000 plus same Endorsement Salary sacrificed at around $35K over two years. Wait… What!? People are still signing up for this? I thought Pay for endorsement rubbish had become a thing of the past!? Not to mention salary sacrificing it on those rates of pay! Get a bit of professional pride about yourselves and tell them "thanks but no thanks, I'll keep looking". There are plenty of jobs that pay better and don't charge you for the job. (Turboprop jobs at that). |
Extrashot, you must actually be kidding right? Have you seen GA wages in this century? 75k/year in a jet beats 50k/year getting flogged in some piston. Unfortunately it'll never change...
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50k for flying a piston? Times have changed. I recall a time not so long ago when just getting a piston job was a miracle.
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GA piston-twin wages would have to be pretty close to that now - whatever the award is...
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