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The Kelpie 24th Feb 2011 03:47

Further evidence that possibly suggests that training standards are on the slide!!


Deaths from aircraft accidents worldwide on the rise




DEATHS on commercial aircraft worldwide rose 15 per cent last year while the overall accident rate involving Western-built jets fell to an all-time low.



Those figures were released Wednesday by the International Air Transport Association, a trade group for the world's airlines.
The group said 786 people died in 23 separate accidents last year, up from 685 deaths in 18 fatal crashes in 2009. The figures include all kinds of jets and turboprops operated on commercial flights but don't include private or military aircraft.
The most common cause of accidents remained planes leaving the runway during takeoff or landing. Many incidents involved wet runways, or too much speed.
IATA said there was one serious accident last year for every 1.6 million flights operated with Western-built jets compared with one for every 1.4 million flights in 2009. It said 2.4 billion people flew safely on 36.8 million jet and turboprop flights last year.
The 2010 accident rate was about six percent lower than the previous best, in 2006, and 42 percent lower than reported a decade ago.
The rate of serious accidents - those in which the plane was destroyed or heavily damaged - was lower among the roughly 230 airlines, including the big ones most familiar to travelers, that belong to IATA.
Accidents rates were higher than the world average in the Asia-Pacific region, Middle East-North Africa and Latin America-Caribbean.
The highest rate was in Africa. IATA said African airlines accounted for two per cent of worldwide passenger traffic but 23 per cent of serious accidents.
Rates were lowest in the former Soviet republics and North America, followed by North Asia and Europe.



Read more: Deaths from aircraft accidents worldwide on the rise | News.com.au

Mstr Caution 24th Feb 2011 21:14

Live Broadcast now
Alan Joyce speaking

The Kelpie 24th Feb 2011 21:52

Vaseline Alan??

Mr. Hat 24th Feb 2011 22:03

You tube worthy?

Signature 24th Feb 2011 22:12

Jetstar NZ Cadets!!!

Go lady!!!

The Kelpie 24th Feb 2011 22:13

Buchanan is a liar. CONTEMPT!!!!

Mstr Caution 24th Feb 2011 22:15

BB - 4800 applications for the cadet program. I thought he said a while ago they had 20,000 applications!

The Kelpie 24th Feb 2011 22:18

NZ cadets on 68k per year. The evidence of these lies is on the way to the good lady senator as we speak!!!

Going Nowhere 24th Feb 2011 22:19

Popcorn ready! This is a ******* pearler! :ok:

Mstr Caution 24th Feb 2011 22:22

Looks like BB is gunna miss his flight out of CBR.

ALAEA Fed Sec 24th Feb 2011 22:38

A link to the Hansard transcript would now be handy... may take a few days to come out.

The Kelpie 24th Feb 2011 22:40

I would love to be a fly on the wall in Alan and Bruce's taxi back to the airport.

If you are a JQ cadet or are considering it be very wary before you do your dough!!!

Bazzamundi 24th Feb 2011 22:40

Listening to some of the lies makes me sick. The industrial strategy to divide us all lives on re. the remarks about how Jetstar and QF compare with regard to the 330 pilots performance. By throwing this out there he hopes to create a pissing competition between the groups.

There is now officially zero respect for this turkey of a CEO now. Only chance we have left is coming.

Mr. Hat 24th Feb 2011 22:40

I'm hoping someone will put it on utube or something like that. Would be good viewing.

Capt_SNAFU 24th Feb 2011 23:09

The question that they neglect to ask is. Is a 1500hr pilot with the same training as a 200hr pilot a better pilot, the same or worse! I think we all know the answer.

denabol 25th Feb 2011 00:12

Cheezus. It got interesting when Xenophone dropped the CASA letter about stick shaker events in Qlink turbo props.

Qantas ambushed in Senate over CASA demands concerning 15 stick shaker events in its Q400 turboprops – Plane Talking

PLovett 25th Feb 2011 00:20

These CEOs' need to be very careful. Contempt of Parliament is treated just as seriously as Contempt of Court. :=

KRUSTY 34 25th Feb 2011 00:26

Just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the incompetance and dishonesty of these two! If the professional pilots they are so determined to exploit showed the same lack of preparation and competance in their checks as these two clowns have shown today, then they would be quickly shown the door before they ended up killing someone.

Exactly what should now happen to messers Joyce and Buchanan!

neville_nobody 25th Feb 2011 00:33

Could someone please tell the senators that bigger airlines do not 'Poach' pilots.
It is a free labour market and if someone leaves one airline to fly for another than that's the way it is.

The fact is that there has always been an oversupply of pilots in the market in the past, and owners always seemed happy to exploit that in the past. Now that things have turned around and there is a labour shortage the owners have put this idea out there that it is now poaching if a pilot leaves from one company to another.

airtags 25th Feb 2011 00:40

The Orange Emperor and his Court Jester were shameful performers - saved only in part by Borghetti's no show - it appears the brighter of the Senator's however saw through the QF JQ charade.

I did love the "take off every second" and "tech problem every 4 minutes" reference .....a new benchmark perhaps!!

Note to QF CEO Minders: - somebody better tell Joyce that the entire SMS/ & risk mitigation matrix is built on net potential cost of [risk] impact.......

As for AFAP!!!!!!!! - what are you thinking by saying xfer fees could be a good thing........next thing we'll see is an AFL style draft for pilots !!!!!!!!!!

(that said & tempting roster karma.......I know one or two left seats that the employer might even pay for another carrier to take!!!!)

Think FRMS might get a run with CASA later.....

AT :E


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