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strim 25th Feb 2011 00:51

Any way of seeing, listening to or reading this mornings proceedings prior to the transcript release?

denabol 25th Feb 2011 00:56

Strim

Click here. Second bottom from list.

Parliament of Australia: Live Broadcasting

The Kelpie 25th Feb 2011 00:56

go to google and type 'webcast aph' and then follow links.

These broadcasts are not archived online so you will only get this afternoon

Mstr Caution 25th Feb 2011 01:01

BB stated at Jetstar "we" have an FRMS.

Do they actually have one? Is it currently applicable to Cabin Crew? As it came up when discussing cabin crew fatigue on MEL-DPS-MEL duties.

PPRuNeUser0198 25th Feb 2011 01:04

Hi - any chance the entire day can be viewed on-line somewhere at a later time?

I'd love to see this tonight?

Stalins ugly Brother 25th Feb 2011 01:25

This morning proved just how inept these two are at running an airline, cost cutting and lies, thats all they have.

It was good to see Sen Heffernan state to AJ that "he could talk under cement", a clear indication that they believed they were being treated with contempt. The sh#t that came from BB mouth was unbelievable, especially in regard to the basing of pilots offshore and in regards to wages and condition and pilot hours from graduates of the cadet program. At the end he had a look on his face that even he couldn't believe the crap that had just came out of his mouth. Lets hope that these two clowns get what they deserve, SACKED, and hopefully prosecuted for unthruths told during their short but eye opening appearance. It was also a shame to see PW sitting next to these two during this circus, a good man being set up for failure.

One thing is for certain, one recommendation from this enquiry will be 1500 hrs min for RPT ops as they will follow the lessons learnt and the lead taken in the US.

John Citizen 25th Feb 2011 01:34

any transcripts please anyone ?

The Kelpie 25th Feb 2011 01:35

Lets see where Petteford's arrogance gets him with Sntr Heffernan and Senator Xenophon!!

breakfastburrito 25th Feb 2011 01:59

John, the transcripts come in later, here's a link to the transcript page, check back over the next week or so - Inquiry into Pilot training and airline safety including consideration of the Transport Safety Investigation Amendment (Incident Reports) Bill 2010. Here's the link to this committee's home page.

Later I will post a link to enable you to download a series of files with the audio from this afternoons hearings that I am currently capturing from the live stream.

airtags 25th Feb 2011 02:04

burrito - are you doing a rap mix of AJ & Bruce???
....maybe a ringtone!!!!!!

John Citizen 25th Feb 2011 02:04

thanks breakfastburrito :ok:

breakfastburrito 25th Feb 2011 02:27

Sorry to disappoint, I only managed to capture from ~13:20. Unfortunately the T&C of the broadcast include:

The Commonwealth Parliament makes the broadcast material available on the following condition :

The material shall not be used for:
political party advertising or election campaigning
satire or ridicule
commercial sponsorship or commercial advertising
So, mixing it up would be contempt of Parliament.

There will be full transcripts available in the near future from the committee page.

John Citizen 25th Feb 2011 02:32


would be contempt of Parliament
But the CEO's are allowed to get away with this ? :confused:

QAN_Shareholder 25th Feb 2011 02:51

Unfortunately I didn't get to listen to the broadcast, a lot of posts are ranting about lies and contempt but little provided in the way of examples. Anyone able to provide a more balanced commentary?

The Kelpie 25th Feb 2011 02:57

You'll be able to ask Alan Joyce, Bruce Buchanan and some of the others shortly cause the Committee should be calling CONTEMPT when they get some contradictory primary evidence and the AFP will be knocking on their doors!!

Not even the excuse of I must have mis-understood. - It was blatent!!!

Ken Borough 25th Feb 2011 02:59

D!ckheads
 
If Stalin or any of the more unsettled types here really believe that lies have been told or the Senate mislead, it surely is incumbent upon them to make a written submission refuting the alleged lies and then making themselves available to be orally examined by the Senate Committee.

Oh, I forget that this is PPRUNE where character assassination, scant regard for the truth, and unbalanced emotional argument is par for the course.

The Kelpie 25th Feb 2011 03:02

Hey Ken

It is already in the email inboxes of each of the members of the committee. but they are busy listening to CASA at the moment.

Do not be surprised if AJ and BB get called back.

Stalins ugly Brother 25th Feb 2011 03:36

Ken,

Bit hypocritical to call people dickheads then complain about character assassinations don't you think?

As an example seeing you asked so politely, there is plenty of information in the public arena with respect to pay and conditions of jobs within Jetstar and how they are moving jobs overseas, not just pilots, this is a fact. Now go and watch BB response to the question.

When asked about future plans and (s)tragedies to grow these jobs offshore, directly asked by the way. What was the response?

When asked the actual FLYING hours a cadet pilot joining J* has? remember flying hours, not sim time, what was BB response??

How about the response to cabin crew training in regard to first aid? The fact is cabin crew are required to have a first aid certificate as a requirement before they join, the QF group do not provide this training. so what was BB response to the question regarding the dead passenger, diversion to Darwin and the training standard for first aid of the questioned flight attendant? True or misleading? Tell me wise one.

I can go on and on but I won't, all that I will say is that you actually go and do some research before you embarrass yourself again.

desmotronic 25th Feb 2011 04:05

Heffernan calls Qantas chief a 'bomb maker'
 



Mr Joyce laughed off the bomb maker comment. (AAP: Sergio Dionisio)
Firebrand Liberal Senator Bill Heffernan has called the Irish-born head of Qantas, Alan Joyce, "an old Irish bomb maker".

The comments were made as Mr Joyce appeared in front of a Senate estimates hearing in Canberra today.

Senator Heffernan initially asked if Mr Joyce came "from a long line of Irish bomb makers", before later calling him one.

"Mr Joyce if the power was yours, you know from being an old Irish bomb maker, if you had the choice, what would be the ideal pilot training?" he said.

The Qantas head laughed off the comment, and Senator Heffernan made several other Irish jokes throughout the hearing.

The New South Wales senator is no stranger to controversy, with a long list of public faux pas to his name, including calling Julia Gillard "deliberately barren".
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breakfastburrito 25th Feb 2011 04:07

Sorry to report the stream capture failed, we will have to wait for the transcript to be posted.


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