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FFRATS 11th Apr 2014 11:23

JQ 'Leaders' Roadshows'
 
Lets ask Jayne as a'Leader'-
Q- Will a pay freeze for the JQ Pilots start from AJ's announcement 'across the board' or from when the EBA's expire date? We know the answer....

Q-and if this is the case the pilots have already been on a 'pay freeze' so will all Managers linked to the executive bonus scheme be 'back-billed' and return any extra pay from the date when their fellow employe is being asked to freeze from, as good 'Leaders' should.
:rolleyes:

FFRATS

Shed Dog Tosser 11th Apr 2014 11:40

If a CEO standing up in public and anouncing pay freezes was all it took to actually freeze pays, don't you think every CEO in the world would do exactly that ?.

It's enterprise bargaining, put PIA on the table and watch them change their tune.

Your EBA is dead when you vote yes to an inferior package, grow some stones, present a united pilot groups and maintain the rage.

FFRATS 11th Apr 2014 13:22

TOSSER
That's my point, a knee jerk claim for a freeze (like the 5000 jobs to go) across the Qantas group regardless of if your currently covered or have been negotiating your EBA while the executives pay increases before and most likely after the announcement.

To implement a performance freeze so executive only got base salary, and not the bonus incentives would be like watching the Ark sinking during the Flood....Rats first out.

A pay freeze has been used in QF in recent times and the pilots never got back what they lost, the managers however 'high 5'ed' themselves the following years with massive bonuses.

FFRATS

stillgoing 29th May 2014 05:45

Can't see a future at JQ: (yes an opening here for some sarcastic comments)

EBA negotiations are stalled
Pay freeze
No overtime
Commands appear to be running at 10years or more
FO's can see no future, many off to the sandpit
Pilot numbers 10% over
JQ route contractions
Junior FO's being shunted to NZ

Apart from the instability surely Tiger would be the better option for a new hire.

waren9 29th May 2014 06:21

well, when you grow faster than you've earned for yourself and the parents money starts drying up i guess at some point the music is going to stop.

Lookleft 29th May 2014 06:49


Apart from the instability surely Tiger would be the better option for a new hire.
You could rephrase that as "apart from the stability Jetstar would be the better option." Jetstar is not recruiting at the moment so both statements are redundant. If Tiger is recruiting then it is the only place that is. This industry operates in cycles so don't base your career choices on a short term view.

CaptCloudbuster 30th May 2014 00:06

Jetstar are still doing interviews
 
In June there are 2 sessions promulgated in our 737 Sim Roster allocated to Jetstar Interview

Ted Nugent 30th May 2014 05:30


In June there are 2 sessions promulgated in our 737 Sim Roster allocated to Jetstar Interview
They won't happen :ok:


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