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bilbert 8th Oct 2008 19:29

AeroTropics Ceases Operations
 
Aero Tropics Air Services ceased operations yesterday. RL was unable to withstand the financial losses of no income while waiting the 5 working days to overturn the AOC suspension imposed last Friday. With long weekends that meant nearly two weeks before getting to court, a fact no doubt evident to CASA when they issued the order.

The role of CASA NQ FOI's RP and MC having continued involvement in ATAS affairs while the under investigation by CASA (yeah right) for 'serious allegations relating to its NQ office' (senate report) needs to be looked at.

Torres Strait operations virtually cease. Regional Pac earlier announced it was pulling out of the Straits. School holidays finish this week. Hospital charters and medical flights stopped. The Qlink Dash 8 running nearly empty.

When will it dawn on the brain dead authorities that airline style RPT services in remote areas with class A maintenance requirements can't be supported when Charter in clapped out Bongo's with Class B maintenance is allowed to directly compete over the same routes every day.

Jabawocky 8th Oct 2008 21:45

So with Skytrans selling off all its piston fleet and effectively out of the game, and Troppo's gone...... who is left? Hinterland (and they are down 1 as of last week) and who else to pick up the slack?

I guess Toyota and Nissan will not be discounting 4WD's up north for a while!

If Jamair is around he may be able to shed some light on the regions woes.

J:sad:

Torres 8th Oct 2008 21:53

Or is it more a rationalisation of operators, enabling growth and reasonable return on investment in the future?

sprocket check 8th Oct 2008 22:10


Or is it more a rationalisation of operators, enabling growth and reasonable return on investment in the future?
probably not when operator demise is externally and artificially imposed by CASA

sc

virgindriver 8th Oct 2008 22:20

Maybe it's time to start up a Caravan RPT service around the Islands?

Maybe have an Eastern and a Western run!:}

bilbert 8th Oct 2008 22:43

ATAS were operating Caravans in RPT !

CASA chose to suspend the AOC rather than the pilot who was involved in the incident that brought it on. Pure Politics.

Jabawocky 8th Oct 2008 22:45

Virgindriver

That is exactly what I was thinking, if you had a couple or 3 C208B's in a pax config...(or maybe just the jump plane config:E) that would be the best all round solution.

Of course the not twin/not going crowd would disagree.

Have no idea about the economics of the idea though....:eek:

J

enalkay 8th Oct 2008 23:00

pacific flyer
 
I believe it is good news for the Boys at aerotropics,with a new operator starting hopefully next week.Fresh start and hopefully full employment if wanted by the pilots.I believe CASA has approved this as of today.Good luck to all of you at this uncertain time

Sue Ridgepipe 9th Oct 2008 01:15


Maybe it's time to start up a Caravan RPT service around the Islands?
Great idea virgindriver!!!
They might need to clear that landing area on the beach at Badu though, it probably hasn't been used for a while.;)

Torres 9th Oct 2008 02:17

Ah, yes. The Badu Island scenic and idylic beach front Caravan park! :} :}


"...with a new operator starting hopefully next week."
Wingz North, Coral Sea Air, Aero Tropics (did I miss any...?) - is the Phoenix to rise yet again? :confused:

Jabawocky 9th Oct 2008 02:20


I believe it is good news for the Boys at aerotropics,with a new operator starting hopefully next week.Fresh start and hopefully full employment if wanted by the pilots.I believe CASA has approved this as of today.Good luck to all of you at this uncertain time
Maybe I am too cynical............. but does this comment suggest something corrupt is going on??? Or is it just good and coincidental???

J:hmm:

bizzybody 9th Oct 2008 02:52

let me guess all the aircraft regos that will be used or at least most of them. First post and all.

virgindriver 9th Oct 2008 02:55


They might need to clear that landing area on the beach at Badu though, it probably hasn't been used for a while
Maybe while they are at it- the overrun at Murray could use some clearing...

bilbert 9th Oct 2008 03:00

Nah couldn't be corruption. It only took two days to get approval for another operator. It only took 30 days for CASA to issue Check approval to the new CP so he could get on with fixing the company. Oh yeh they suspended the AOC 2 days later citing shortcomings in the training, supervision and skills of pilots. Nah couldn't possibly be corruption!

av8trflying 9th Oct 2008 03:16

The latest i heard was that Barrier Aviation is taking over.

Socket 9th Oct 2008 04:17

UZU, Cape York Air.

Front Left 9th Oct 2008 04:32

Barrier Aviation
 
Isn't Barrier Aviation owned by an ex CASA FOI? Hasn't said ex FOI had several other company's go broke? Who remembers Cairns Jet Centre?

Interesting!!!

Jabawocky 9th Oct 2008 04:58

Geeee if thats the case, it should be a 4Corners story.

GA in FNQ is quite a thing!

Lefthanded_Rock_Thrower 9th Oct 2008 06:00

Front Left,

You are going to make enemies on pprune quick smart trying to trash this man, I have worked for him in the past, as have many many others here, he is a very capable pilot and the most honest businessman I have ever dealt with.

Let me assure you no persons identity on PPRUNE is secret, refer Mr Smith V's TACAN400, tread carefully.

Wish there were more like him in our industry.

Joshua Cox
0428 241 105

404 Titan 9th Oct 2008 06:30

Lefthanded_Rock_Thrower

There are also others on here who would strongly disagree with you. I spent enough years in FNQ to know exactly which camp I belong to concerning said person. As for his abilities as a pilot, you won’t get an argument from me.


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