LRT

you seem to know a bit, how does the AOC get done so quick? Sure BA seem to have the equipment and are reputable, but even with that how does it get through in days. Some folk take months or more. Had they been on the process of getting it for a long time and the timing was fortunate, like VB when AN fell over.

J

i heard west wing.

Well, Uzu probably had the right idea a few years ago but it was pretty hard to compete with all the other "shared charter" operators. The general pax weren't the most reliable either.

Nope, didn't forget at all. :ok:

I was referring solely to that series of recurring air charter operators which were either genetically or incestuously related.......... :}

Its not BA. CAO 82.0 para 3. requires approval. Still sitting on some CASA desk somewhere. They're determined not to give RL a break by allowing leasing of a/c. Nah Its not corruption, just a vendetta bordering on insanity.

so what's the federal court's stance on it this time? have they even gone to court?

Suspension was issued late on a friday. Standard tactic. 5 working days to get to court. With a public holiday - that's next tuesday. 12 days flying lost

More rumours. Qld Governement considering state of emergency. Some islands without water, telephones, health services. Kids can't get back to school. Aircraft reported doing 'Private' flights in the area moving the general public. Gives you a warm fuzzy feeling to know that the regulator is doing its job eh!.

Hey Bala,

isn't water usually brought in by the sea swift barge?

Yawal...

its very unfortunate (for the travelling pax) that last time troppos had their aoc suspended was the last school holidays and now again for these school holidays (some of the busiest days of the year).
now with Regional Pacific finishing up operations in the straits as of today it looks like Cape Air Transport (minus an awall PN68) and Barrier to pick up the slack.....busy times ahead

10 litres more or 10 litres less fuel in that aircraft on Warraber two weeks ago and we wouldn't be talking about giving anyone a break. We'd have been picking up bits of broken aircraft and people out of the water.

Excuse my ignorance unhinged but how is that RL's fault.Sounds to me the PIC should be dipping a little more.

I'd be interested to know how a new AOC can be issued so fast, usually takes months. Then there is the task of upgrading aircraft to RPT standard, requires a new M/R issue and getting each aircraft individually added to AOC, time consuming too.

Nicely said LRT.
To many clowns get on here and act as an expert and just bag operaters that they have not worked for.
Half these people need to get a life and think about there own flying or operator abilitys before bagging others otherwise we will be reading posts about them.

The frequency of dipping the tanks is a function of the pilot and the company culture; and the company culture is a function of the management's attitude. Any working GA pilot knows the pressures that the company brings to bear - I've worked in operations where the pressure was to follow the rules, wash the aircraft, and have complete planning; and I've worked in others where the pressure was to overload, go min fuel at every opportunity, and never write anything up.

If companies have a culture of pilots following the rules, then there's enormous group pressure for them to do so. If not, then anything can happen, and usually does.

Unhinged

Understand where you are coming from in regards to pressure being brought to bear.

But at the end of the day, it is YOUR responsibility.

I dont know the facts of the company, but, bag the company if they do these things, i have no problem with that and should be reported as such - thats what confidential reporting is for.

But if you are stupid enough to take off without enough fuel when it is a two second check, more fool you. Your the one who is dead, not the CEO.

Correct me if I'm wrong but haven't Westwing been operating Troppo's Shrikes (possibly leasing them?) out of Troppo's Cns office on the mail runs since July? Maybe that is when the AOC application process started? Westwing B200's have been parked near the Troppo's office over the last couple of months as well.

Two words...Curry Kenny...you heard it here first! :E

According to Cairns Post today Unusual-Attitude is correct! Apparently CASA to approve things on Monday for SlingAir to come in and operate Troppo's aircraft on Troppo's routes using Slingair pilots. Not sure how accurate that is I guess all will be revealed early next week!

I had my money on West Wing taking over the reins, good luck to Sling Air.