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Unusual-Attitude 11th Oct 2008 03:50

I wonder if the now 'ex-tropos' van drivers will be 'exchanging shirts' as RL predicted, hope so for their sakes.

werbil 11th Oct 2008 05:34

I wonder if the CP will get to wear his old shirt too.

actionstar 11th Oct 2008 12:04

yeah, housemate works for aerotropics, and was working today and said the "apparent" new owners were walking around and the shed was locked down... meeting scheduled for monday morning to let everyone within ATAS know whats going on...

also, the infomation I have regarding the fuel incidents were due to pilot switching the fuel off in one instance and selecting the wrong tank in the other instance... not low/no fuel in either case..pilot muckup hence corrupt casa going after there check training procedures...

EMB120ER 11th Oct 2008 13:52

Is'nt Slingair part of the Kurry Kenny group?

Frank Burden 11th Oct 2008 21:10

Slingair
 
Owned by Kerry and Pat Slingsby, Slingair Heliwork WA is Western Australia's largest privately owned aviation company with a fleet of over 50 aircraft. So, no matter where you want to go in the Kimberley – they have the ability to get you there. :)

enalkay 12th Oct 2008 00:18

pacific flyer
 
Wrong. Pilot at YWBS miscalculated fuel and did not dip tanks b4 leaving YHID.The other incident had nothing to do with what you are on about.The engine failed and was subsequently replaced 2 days later.Pilot in first incident at YWBS was terminated.You don`t know what you are talking about best idea for you mind your own business!!!

actionstar 12th Oct 2008 22:55

why are they both considered "pilot related" incidents then if the engine failed?? where do you get your info??

Socket 12th Oct 2008 23:08

Frank Burden
 
Wrong, sold to Curry-Kenny.

Unusual-Attitude 13th Oct 2008 04:59

Told you all this days ago! :ugh:

bilbert 13th Oct 2008 05:32

You're all wrong. Lip Air went into voluntary receivership on Sat. 50 'innocent' employees with kids and mortgages all terminated. All because of an insane vendetta by certain CASA persons with personal agendas to get RL.
Why are they allowed to regulate in the area they previously had commercial ties in? It's guaranteed to create a conflict of interest.
CASA refused to 'approve' anyone to take over the aircraft or pilots from the suspended AOC holder. Read CAO 82.0 para 3 and get an appreciation of the economic power over operators, these people have.
Good luck to the ex employees and to the people of the Torres Straits.

Unusual-Attitude 13th Oct 2008 05:40

Oh man...that really does suck for the guys. Thought they'd be maybe getting re-employed by incoming operator. Yeah, second Bilbert...good luck dudes...you'll be right. :sad:

Socket 13th Oct 2008 06:06

HMMMM Strange.
 
Seems the application to wind up went in a month ago, two months after getting the previous suspension lifted by the courts. Looks like the decision to close up was made and the machinary put in motion long before the latest action from CASA. I wonder if his staff was aware he had done this.:confused:

From the ASIC website:

Extracted from ASIC's database at AEST 16:50:01 on 13/10/2008NameLIP-AIR PTY. LIMITEDACN068 117 537ABN88 068 117 537TypeAustralian Proprietary Company, Limited By SharesRegistration Date07/02/1995Next Review Date07/02/2009Status** UNDER EXTERNAL ADMINISTRATION and/or CONTROLLER APPOINTED **Locality of Registered OfficeAeroglen QLD 4870JurisdictionAustralian Securities & Investments Commissionhttp://www.search.asic.gov.au/_images/hr.gif
These are the documents that ASIC has most recently received from or in relation to this organisation. Page numbers are shown if processing is complete and the document is available for purchase. DateNumberPagesDescription11/10/20087E18495872505U Notification of Appt of Administrator Under S.436a, 436b,436c, 436e(4), 449b, 449c(1), 449c(4) or 449(6)08/09/20080248839253519G Notification of Application to Wind Up Company Under S.459p, 462 or 46401/09/2008024507922Not Imaged519D Notification of Making of Winding Up Order


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Air Ace 13th Oct 2008 09:29

Looks like the decision was made almost two weeks ago. And it does not appear that decision was voluntary? :confused:

COMPANIES ACT 1981 S.459p, 462 or 464 - interesting?

Did the company advise the staff, two weeks ago, that there were problems? :=

Whatever the story, it is all over. I trust the staff secure their entitlements, history indicates otherwise, and are able to move on in their careers.

werbil 13th Oct 2008 09:32

HMMMM Not Strange
 
Socket,

An application to wind up a company is usually made by a creditor chasing $$$$. This is what occurred over a month ago - it is not a decision by the company to close up.

Appointment of an administrator occurred on the 11th of this month, over a week after the second suspension. This is sign of problems.

I don't know of many private companies that have the capital behind them to keep operating for any period with no income and the high standing costs of aviation.

W

Air Ace 13th Oct 2008 09:46


"This is what occurred over a month ago..."
And the Board did not take a responsible decision to preserve any remaining equity to the benefit of the staff and creditors?

Or did the company trade insolvent? :confused:

werbil 13th Oct 2008 11:40

Air Ace,

Try the right act - CORPORATIONS ACT 2001 NO. 50, 2001

The sections of the act referred to by the documents lodged suggest it is volunatry administration by the company.

bilbert 13th Oct 2008 22:24

Voluntary receivership was obviously the only way to get the aircraft fleet out of the the CAO 82.0 para 3 block applied by CASA. No safety issue here.

Waghi Warrior 13th Oct 2008 22:54



CASA in FNQ, this has happened before. CASA Officers having personal interests in GA companies, anyone remember the Falcon Airlines case back in the mid 90's ?

Not to sure what happens else where around Australia, but CASA in FNQ have had a history of this type of practice for over a decade now.

I really think CASA have a lot to answer for if this is indeed the case, as it's simply not fair.

Front Left 13th Oct 2008 23:25

Exactly Waghi Warrior. But careful, you will upset Lefthander Rock Thrower with those comments. :=

enalkay 14th Oct 2008 05:52

pacific flyer
 
:cool:well you should see the videos the passenger took at Warraber on the day of the incident,from loading to taxi to the failed takeoff attempt to the draining of the fuel from one a/c to another.Whoever the passenger was she certainly knew how to take a damning video.Oh she was on board the aforementioned a/c.Let us see where this takes this sad saga.


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