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sayallafter 4th Oct 2008 04:54

Any truth that Pixie are using a chartered king air to carry the bags that the SAW 145 can't.

If true makes for an expensive way to run an airline

Couldn't really see how (or why) they would run a E145 on what was a then a F100 route.


Ringbinder


Has OA got themselves the 2nd 73 yet? Heard that they got pipped on one they initally wanted.

I believe that their current one is comming up for a C check very shortly as well, so a second one would come in handy.

Perhaps they could use Ozjet if the timing is not right and they end up having no aircraft available. :O

witwiw 4th Oct 2008 09:42


Perhaps they could use Ozjet
Assuming, of course that OJ will still be around in 3 months.

EchoNovemberTango 5th Oct 2008 07:35

Werent they just purchased?

(and arent they working with Norfolk?)

sthaussiepilot 7th Oct 2008 07:38

solomonstarnews.com - Pacific Blue puts pressure on for tourism action

Same Days for All 3 of them....:bored:

Well minimum one of them is a goner.....

sayallafter 7th Oct 2008 08:45

Sthaussie

gotta agree with you there.

BTW, how long term is the Solomon/OA contract, seem to remember reading that it was only a short term one, ie finishes sometime prior to Chrismas. Maybe something to do with a C check comming due.

Just may give a bit of breathing space to SAW.

Pac Blu is certainly tying up the pacific region.

Tidbinbilla 7th Oct 2008 23:04

Let's get back on track, shall we? The thread is about Skyairworld cancelling Honiara flights.:rolleyes:

TID

Melanesian Blue 8th Oct 2008 01:33

SAW is pushing sh*t up hill with its BNE- Solomons Operation from what I hear on the streets of HIR. It may never happen for the simple fact that many Solomon nationals see SAW as one of the many blames for the failure of SOLAIR international services.
Air Van that’s a Maybe too:confused:?? There’s quite a lot of conflicting interest amongst people here with the current CEO and his spanner monkey, both ex air van connections which doesn’t appeal to locals either.
PB some possibilities there but I don’t see politicians liking the idea of travelling cattle class. Air Pac well they couldn’t care less.
Air Niugini, well culture proves that black guys aren’t the best of friends especially when they’re neighbours & are doing a bit better than you ....trust me I’m BLACK!. :)
OA well despite the predictions of many is still in the background. I remember a Quote by someone made in HIR “ With the embraer we’ll bury OA, we’ll take over air Niugini then we’ll work on Air Van! Yeah right grow up u Turkey.

Competition is meant to be healthy, so bring it on. Solomon’s has the potential but lacks the infrastructure, political stability and most importantly the $Dollars$. Interesting times.

blackbandit 8th Oct 2008 03:51

IE loves NF. Plain and simple. They are IE's first choice for anything. Unfortunately for IE, NF is just to busy doing their own thing. OA is IEs last choice for everything and anything.

OA out of the air over christmas, NF going with a short term 737-700 to cover the gap. If it works and IE is happy, this will be a permanent arrangement.

Gumaaark 13th Oct 2008 04:46

Just a simple driver myself, but then this is a "pilots" network. (Omitted the "proffesional" as its' suitability is unclear)!
To those contemplating joining SAW, you could do far worse. Here at least is a company that makes a competent effort to look after their staff (including pilots) and although I have little experience of the other operators mentioned, (and therefore cannot comment on their employment conditions), That is a rare commodity in an aviation employer.
Yes, they are a young company, and as such not as secure as some of the more established operators, but every company has to start somewhere. If you are going to take a risk, when is the best time to do it? My opinion only, but there do seem to be alot more jobs and alot less pilots floating around these days...
Remember the good old days? when a company would pay for your endorsement and your wages whilst training?
Few and far between these days....

(apologies to the spelling police; no spell checker available)

sthaussiepilot 13th Oct 2008 06:42

Sky was paying for endorsments on the 190 and 170, dont know if they still are, I'd asume they still are...

ringbinder 13th Oct 2008 07:38


OA out of the air over christmas
Upon what is this statement based? I'm a regular traveller to Honiara and prefer Our Airline, especially now with it's recent code share arrangement with Solomon Airlines. I'm to understand that the arrangement will be going to three services a week soon so how upon earth do you develop the belief they will be out of the air over Christmas?

sthaussiepilot 13th Oct 2008 09:16

solomonstarnews.com - New airline plans amphibian flights

Seems the new A/C are set to go:ok:

and already flames about PB being a "budget airline" solomonstarnews.com - Our airline wars reach the USA

sayallafter 16th Oct 2008 13:10

Ringbinder

I think that the statement about Our Airline being out of the air over XMAS may have something to do with their 737 having to complete a "C" check sometime soon.

Unless the reported second aircraft arrives soon, of course.

Also heard that Our Airline charted Ozjet to do their Norfolk - Gold Coast - Norfolk run today due to the unavailability of their own aircraft for the schedule.

That must have caused a little bit of embarrassment since today was only the 2nd flight that OA was scheduled to do on that run....but I am told that the decision to axe the Gold Coast run was made after the first one anyway.

Reliability from an single aircraft airline will always an issue, as Norfolk Air experienced that some months ago when they chartered Our Airline for other work.

Issues like this may just give a few more seats to SAW on the HIR run.

blackbandit 18th Oct 2008 04:18

AIR VAN single aircraft operator. Dont see them having reliability problems. Then again they are using a new aircraft.

chichibota 8th May 2009 08:05

Strategic and IE
 
Hope Strategic management check IE out properly and hope IE do better sums than they did with SAW. If Strategic were smart they'd buy IE....fire everyone and....start again.....captive market with fares higher than Hubble...can't lose!

Animalclub 8th May 2009 08:38

Chichi
It's been tried but there is a requirement for grease money and it's not cheap!

frigatebird 8th May 2009 22:55

Am informed by an ex Chief Pilot (twice) - once in Buchanan's era and again for a short stint recently over Christmas - that under its present ownership and administration waste is out of control, and supervision and discipline are almost non-existant. But Graft is up !

Red Jet 9th May 2009 01:04

Frigatebird -well done, you say:

"Am informed by an ex Chief Pilot (twice) - once in Buchanan's era and again for a short stint recently over Christmas - that under its present ownership and administration waste is out of control, and supervision and discipline are almost non-existant."

Management (yes, that include Islanders) read these pages too. So now you have dobbed in your mate for having provided confidential company information in confidence to you. It is not very hard for an informed manager to figure out which CP you are referring to, and he may not appreciate you going public with the assessment he provided you with in respect of the current status within Solomon Airlines (I mean c'mon - he's obviously a sucker for punishment having been back twice, and you may just have precluded his possibility of coming back for a third time).

With mates like you - who needs enemies............

frigatebird 9th May 2009 01:42

R.J.
Sounds like you are the Management that is trying to keep a lid on the "speculation" on a Rumour Network about waste, supervision and discipline. Anyway who said he would be invited back, even though its his "second home". On another post it was reported by Trex Wantok that they all hate him there now. He is the Aussie scapegoat they had to have. All from trying to improve things - mustnt have been the Island Way!

Red Jet 9th May 2009 04:53

I can assure you I am not any longer associated with Solair in any way shape or form. I have however, been an "aussie scapegoat" myself in the past and just thought I'd point out to you that your posting could potentially have an adverse effect on your mate - that's all.:ok:


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