SAC? :confused:

Bne Hon
 

HeavyLift are starting Cargo RPT to Honiara from mid month ? Is SAW still on the pax route ?

Indeed they are, you can still book on their website to head there..:ok:

Thanks, good to know if we get stuck.

huh Heavy?

Some Facts
 

SAW, start up capital, 10 million. they promptly went and borrowed another 90 million. They borrowed this money from maquarie bank. Soon they will have to start to pay. Their "business plan", has not proceeded in the manner they thought it would.

Pac Blue is very interested in AGGH, their delegation was in honiara last week. The board of IE, and the government promptly told them to f... off. They are due to try again in a year with a better deal.

Oz Jet gasping for breath.

Virgin will commence POM soon. Tie up with Airlines PNG. Airlines PNG currently setting up its own 737 operation. They are to use classics. The man responsible for the setup has some experience in the pacific, enough to know the locals definately dont like him.

Back Bandit

Just some (serious) questions re your post…

If the IASC gave Pac Blue an allocation of 360 seats why do they need to do a deal with either the SOL Govt or IE?

And if SAW doesn’t use their 470 seats (or even one day just give them up) couldn’t PB just apply for more allocation.

Regards APNG…are you saying that they are going to code share with PB on the Australia connection AND also start their own 737 operation.

Cheers

Blackbandit APNG is not getting their own 737 they are just going to use virgin equipment and leave the money in the bank from the float (not a bad idea at the moment). The man you speak of I think you will find has moved on(first name starts with a G), because the person I know who is setting all of this up has a long and good history in the pacific( with many good wantoks in solomons).

APNG is getting their own 733. They are to code share with pb for a period, however as mentioned in a previous post, PB cannot offer the level of service APNG wants. No the person who is to set up their jet operations name does not start with "G". The guy i'm speaking about is already in Cairns working on it. And as previously mentioned, GOOD LUCK.

As far as PB operating into the Solomons: All the infrastructure is owned by either Solomon Airlines or the Government of the solomon Islands. So they require an agreement for usage. as i said they will return next year, to see if they can commence operations. The solomons government is not interested in "fly by nighters". Virgin have operated charter flight to HIR before, however, at the first sign of unrest, they pull the pin. They have dishonoured charters in the past due to this.

Noticed SAW's E190 in Darwin yesterday.

Blackbandit I can assure you that APNG is not getting their own 737.Details about this were released to the png stock exchange about a month ago I think . I think you are a little out of touch.

ummm, well PB officially announced 2x weekly flights to HIR ex BNE today commencing December. Is there enough room on the route for all these players?

Ummmm, short answer would be NO.

Pac Blue, Sky Air, and lets not forget Our Airline getting another aircraft soon.

Guess the South Pacific is still a graveyard for airlines...
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CNIC
 

Maybe you should talk to the guy in Cairns on the APNG payroll who's doing the setup. Ask Chappel about it.

Air Vanuatu
 

Air Vanuatu commences three services weekly as of December. ex BNE.

PB not starting the route. Out of all the pacific airlines, Air Van has performed consistently on this route for the last 8 years.

PB simply bags its bags and leaves the first time there is unrest. Absolutely NOT what the solomons government wants.

QF used to conduct regular charters on the route, but they worked out it wasnt viable for them, and they not longer allow their aircraft under any any circumstances to operate into HIR.

Our Airline, Christ, what a joke. Now they get to fly around in two empty 737,s

I think we all know the only one of the above who stands a chance of lasting is Air Van.

I'm also under the understanding that APNG have put their proposed B737 on hold for the time being,and Virgin will be operating on a code share basis with APNG. One reason for this maybe because they haven't got a suitable chief pilot to run such an operation at the moment.

In regard to SAW,the sooner ANG drop the Rice Rocket (E145) off the POM-CNS route the better,reminds me of the Kendall CRJ days of pax not being able to carry any bags. They woud be better running a DHC-8-300 on the route or even better go back to the Fokker 100.

ITS, you really have a set against Our Airline, don't you? It shows on every post of yours so what have they done to upset you so?

Incidentally I fly to/from Honiara on a regular basis and I can assure you that OA's aircraft is far from being empty, on those sectors at least. Absolutely chock-a-block on yesterday's return to Brisbane and almost as full on my trip out to Honiara a week ago. A significant amount of freight, too, came off in Honiara. These passenger numbers have been the norm on all my recent travels to the Solomons.

As for the second aircraft, isn't it destined for the Norfolk operation once Norfolk Air have rid themselves of OzJet? Can't imagine the Norfolk Government contracting a carrier if the aircraft wasn't going to pay for itself.

I think, ITS, you'd be better served if (i) you left paranoia out of your comments and (ii) stuck to facts - and your belief of Our Airline flying around empty doesn't belong in the latter.

SAW: Another 190 to arrive from brazil in december. I have to say I am impressed with there business plan, whether there is room in the market is another question? If they remove the 145 and keep to 170/190 then all should be fine.

Blackbandit are you saying that apng has mislead its share holders, and that the notice advising us it had shelved the 737 program is not true? You do realise that APNG is now a public company and not just owned by the wilds they have shareholders to answer to. If they have put out wrong information that is quite serious.