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600ft-lb 9th Sep 2011 06:39

Makes you wonder how Jetstar were profitable from day 1 doesn't it ..

PPRuNeUser0161 10th Sep 2011 00:27

600ft-lb
Not really, J* tapped a previously untapped market and quickly added capacity to get the critical mass required for profit. Not the same in any man's language. Tiger are trying to bust into an already saturated market. The must have something more in mind for Australia down the track otherwise they would have pulled the pin by now.


SN

ReverseFlight 10th Sep 2011 03:30


J* tapped a previously untapped market and quickly added capacity to get the critical mass required for profit.
Yes, but note recent allegations that J* is effectively subsidised by Qantas, although strenuously denied.

The The 10th Sep 2011 04:40


Not really, J* tapped a previously untapped market and quickly added capacity to get the critical mass required for profit.
Rubbish! They were handed an instant market share. They stepped into numerous destinations from which Qantas were withdrawn (e.g. OOL). Instant 60-80% market share and instant profitability. Other places like HBA saw a substantial withdrawal by Qantas and again; instant market share.

Had they had to build their own market share, they would have occurred years and years of losses; just like Tiger.

titan uranus 10th Sep 2011 10:01

Approximately; however, able to make money on those routes where QF couldn't...
JQ just as safe, yet more efficient.

Anyways, this I recall is a Tiger thread. Good to see them airborne again.

FlexibleResponse 10th Sep 2011 13:56


Ms Regan said the airline was pleased with the level of demand and "many flights were departing nearly full".
"Tiger Airways is developing the network plan proposed by the business," she said. "The resumption of domestic services is gradual in order to focus on operational excellence."
I wonder what they mean by "operational excellence"?

PPRuNeUser0161 11th Sep 2011 00:00

The The
Your right, QF did hand J* a "ready made" rather than an "untapped" (bad wording on my behalf), market. They have also built on that low cost market substantially you would have to say. My point is that Tiger are having to battle it out in the trenches against some pretty mean well established operators.

I thought they would have pulled the pin when they were grounded. The fact that they are still here tells me they are filling a gap in a market they predict will expand to enable them to grow.

SN

PoppaJo 11th Sep 2011 22:48

Ex Virgin executive, Andrew David, now the CEO of Tiger Australia.

He was also in the running for the top job at Virgin with Boghetti...

neville_nobody 12th Sep 2011 03:19

So is he going to introduce some 'Virgin Flare' to the joint?


Ex-Virgin exec gets top job at Tiger
Matt O'Sullivan
September 12, 2011 - 11:41AM

Tiger Airways has named Andrew David, a former senior executive at Virgin Blue, as the new boss of its troubled Australian operations.

The appointment of an experienced airline executive signals that Tiger’s Singapore parent and its cornerstone shareholders, including Singapore Airlines, intend to maintain the Australian operations despite its recent forced grounding due to safety concerns.

Mr David, formerly the chief operating officer at Virgin, will begin on October 17, replacing Tony Davis as chief executive of Tiger’s Australian business. He had been seen as a potential replacement for Virgin’s co-founder, Brett Godfrey, but lost out to John Borghetti for the top job almost two years ago.
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Mr David left Australia’s second-largest airline last last year, joining an exodus of other senior managers who had worked under Mr Godfrey.

Before joining Virgin in 2005, Mr David had held a number of senior management roles at Air New Zealand, including chief information officer and head of strategy and planning.

Chin Yau Seng, the acting chief executive of Singapore-based Tiger Airways, said he was confident Mr David could take the Australian operations to ‘‘new heights’’.

‘‘He brings with him a wealth of experience in the airline business and a proven track record as a leader and manager,’’ he said in a release to the Singapore Stock Exchange today.

Mr Davis, who was previously the boss of Tiger’s Singapore parent, is the third chief executive of the Australian business to leave in 18 months. He will officially finish on November 1.

He departure was announced two week ago.

Read more: Ex-Virgin exec gets top job at Tiger | Andrew David

spocky 12th Sep 2011 04:00

Well I suspect you aren't going to be any better off with AD at the helm. Very unliked at Virgin !! :hmm::hmm::hmm:

porch monkey 12th Sep 2011 13:29

They are welcome to him.

Goat Whisperer 13th Sep 2011 09:26

Only he saw himself as BG's potential replacement.

I speak for many when I say the changing of the guard couldn't have gone better.

PoppaJo 16th Sep 2011 10:31

Tiger Airways Thailand now shelved.

With SQ management taking the reins, will be interesting to see where they send all these A320's, Singapore already has too many aircraft for its current schedule.

Tiger Japan?
Tiger Philippines?

Or something they should have done from the start, primarily focus on Tiger Singas and Australia, to create two dominant strong carriers going forward.

1a sound asleep 18th Sep 2011 12:55

Tiger Australia still exist? Oh yes the Melbourne only airline to SYD, OOL, BNE and PER.

Unquestionably still ripping up millions each week, guaranteed

Bravo Papa 26th Sep 2011 14:42

The right to live and work in Australia to start with...

David Eyre 27th Sep 2011 05:11

Tiger Airways (Singapore) buys 33% of Mandala (Indonesia)
 

Tiger Airways Thailand now shelved.

With SQ management taking the reins, will be interesting to see where they send all these A320's, Singapore already has too many aircraft for its current schedule.

Tiger Japan?
Tiger Philippines?
Perhaps they will send them to "Tiger Indonesia" (Tiger has bought a third of Mandala)
Tiger Mandala tie up opens new front in LCC competition | Plane Talking

Regards,
David

porch monkey 27th Sep 2011 08:08

One could say they deserve each other....

Pedota 27th Sep 2011 13:09

Return to ASP?
 
Does anyone know when Tiger are planning to return to Alice Springs?

Genuine question – I run an indigenous volunteer literacy program in the NT and I need to get some more volunteers up there soon at the best airfares.

Thanks from anyone who knows what is going on.

Cheers

Pedota

Xcel 27th Sep 2011 14:40

Best airfares?

Depends on your view then I guess...

Cheapest airfares? More probable...

Pedota 28th Sep 2011 03:34

Good point Xcel . . . I meant cheapest airfares as we run the program without much funding. Any idea when they are going back to Alice?


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