Thanks Buzzy.

Strolled into that one!

Think my question has been answered.

Geeezz! Sometimes it's like drawing teeth

TIMMEEE, who did you ask re religion...some one at EK? I joined with a guy who put Jew on his paperwork, they gave him a job then asked that in future he leave that bit blank just to avoid any hassles. Any way your choice, good luck.

For those that don't know how to us the internet search function ...

http://www.emiratesgroupcareers.com/

Have a look and see for yourselves.

Did anyone actually go any of these open days? Many turn up? etc etc

Don

I went and had a look. About 15 was the turn out at that one. I thought they put a good case forward and answered all questions.

:ok: :8

BS.

That'll be because they're trained salesman....be cautious of strangers offering gifts.

15 people?
They certainly weren't swamped with interest then.
Were there more people at any of the other venues?
Time for Oz bases I reckon!!!!! :ok:
THAT will get some interest !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

I was at one of the roadshows in Brissy, probably about 50-60 including a few spouses. Questions were asked re second officer time and turboprop time. SO time is counted but only up to a mximum of 500 hours and at THIS stage heavy turboprop time (P3, HERC) doesn't count toward the requirement for 2000 hours multi crew jet. But that may change.

I attended the Brisbane recruitment seminar.
25 Direct Entry Captains required by October this year. No more expected after that. This is inspite of 160 pilots wanted this year and 500 next year. Work that out. DEC's only required for B777. No waiver on 3000hrs above 55 tonnes.
I have 4500rs jet command time but only 500hrs above 55 tonnes. I would only be considered for an F.O. position. This does not sound like a Company running short of crew, to me. That may well be the case.
Nor would I take it away from the many F.O.s aspiring to command in Emirates, understandably, they should have first go.
I was amazed at the low remuneration on offer. Less gross than a J* pilot. The only differences being taxation treatment and accommodation supplied. And people put **** on J* salaries. A Jet* pilot actually costs the company more than an Emirates pilot in pure salary terms. I do understand that accommodation and school fees etc' combine to form an expatriate enticement. But seriously, why would people leave Oz to work for that small difference.
Especially when considered along with the recruitment process.
Yes, there is a shortage of experienced pilots emerging, but it still has along way to go and will require the collective will of all pilots to ensure that real benefits flow to pilots as a result of that shortage.

F/O Bloggs, I do understand the point you are making. That is, irrespective, there is more money in the pocket.

However, that is simply a result of the tax free environment. Naturally as an end user (recipient) we tend to care only about the nett worth, but we still cannot escape the gross cost to our company. I do not deny the right of those who would take up employment on the best possible nett terms to themselves.

All I am suggesting is the looming shortage of pilots is not yet influencing the employers to offer sufficient nett remuneration to attract the experience levels that they are demanding, in numbers sufficient to meet the demands of the expanding operations they seek to crew.

The end result is my overall impression from the EK seminar was, we want you to apply, but don't be surprised if you do not meet our stringent requirements.

Gentlemen,

On the Fragrant Forum it is quite easy to obtain info as to the 'standard' one can expect of life in HK. I am very aware that some of you have put it in black and white before. Seems pertinent to me that one of you lads should post a neutral (Yep Neutral) view of what someone can expect when joining EK. Forget all the nonsense about house maids and the like. Just what it costs to work here. I'm here a lot but not based and to be honest it's bloody expensive. Would love to know if there are less expensive options. Please give it some thought before posting, and please, no vitriol. If any of you are in a position to 'further the interest' I, for one, would appreciate it.

With Thanks

D

I have been with Emirates for about 1 year now and my average pay packet is around $8000 Aussies dollars in the hand/month. This month alone I have 2 Aussie trips and a JFK which is 92 stick hours and I have earnt close to$9000 Aussie dollars with around another $1000 in layover cash. If I wanted to I could pick up another trip from the crew portal and push my pay packet over the $10000 mark. I have no other bills except for mobile/internet/cable tv/car/fuel. I am so far ahead from what i was earning in Australia it isn't funny!!! By the way, the above figures aren't indicative of the 20% payrise and flight pay which doesn't kick in till next month!

Defenestrator
 

What did your last slave die of?

I have no need to entice you to Emirates. Try the search function next time.....

Atiuta,

Are you EK management ?

That would be "no" and I fail to see your correlation.

Not one to disappoint are you Atiuta. I simply wanted some insight. I trust that you're not the calibre of pilot at EK that I was hoping to hear from.

D :yuk:

After reading these 5 pages, all of a sudden it aint so bad flying a 400 and living in SW England.Thank you youve cheered me up no end!

Defenestrator
 

If you wanted some insight, a politer way to ask would have been without the little lecture about what you expected in a response. BTW, had any luck?

Bypass Ratio, the seminar advised of a 6% payrise plus flight pay commencing 1st May. Where does the 20% fit in?

The 20% pay rise furfy is how EK are trying to sell the latest pay rise that will come into effect on 1st May. It includes our normal 3% basic pay increment, the 6% pay rise and the newly introduced flight pay (Aed45 per actual block hour, up to the productivity threshold (76 to 78hrs) for Capts and not sure of what the FO payment is). The companies spin is that when flying 75hrs per month (for all 12 months), and if you are on the lowest pay increment for your rank this flight pay is equal to another 11%. We then get newbies, who are still awestruck at being in DXB, that round all this up to 20%. As its a fixed amount, the percentage of your salary for flight pay decreases as you move up the pay structure. It also does not take into account any months of leave, ground training, or when sick leave is taken and 75hrs are not flown.

This flight pay is also not included in any profit share payment, loss of licence payment, provident fund payment etc etc.

So in reality, we have received a 6% pay rise, if you push it, the flight pay might be called another 5-6%.

Don