Direct, Yep and there lies the problem, and why I doubt this rumour.

Why would Emirates offer basings? The answer is most likely- to increase the pool of applicants. That means it will be for new joiners, not those already in. If it was in seniority order, the numbers in the que would be enormous and new guys would not be enticed. Emirates needs more pilots, lots of them and a basing system would do it. What would it do to the morale of those left in Dubai?????? A basing system would likely cause as many problems as it would fix. I'm not holding my breath.

You miss the point that basings would improve retention. Therefore obviating the need for as many new recruits. With 5% annual attrition that is a sizeable number. I would hazard to guess that most of the EK guys that left for JetStar would have stayed at EK had they been offered an Oz base.


Typhoonpilot

Really? More than 500 pilots who could work in Oz and have more than 2000 hours jet time?

Let's see, Virgin has about 550 pilots TOTAL.

You are dreaming.

TP- You miss my point. I don't think basings would be for those of you already there. Basings would be used to attract new guys, not keep those already there. 5% attrition is manageable if you're able to hire like crazy. Basings would allow that. Emirates needs most of their pilots in Dubai. The cold hard fact is that a lot of guys there don't have anywhere else to go.

Icarus- Virgin has 500+, QF has 2000+, Jetstar, National Jet, Jitconnict, ANZ, expats, etc. On the salary that I mentioned, with reasonable promotional opportunities, a hell of a lot of very disilusioned QF guys would certainly be interested- many out of pure spite. 500 may be a bit off the mark but I reckon it would be close to that. TT

My guess is that you will never see basings for the simple reason EK will never accept their crews being subject to OZ/euro/North American labour laws.

If anything we may see some attempt to introduce commutable rosters. Against this is that it would require more pilots because there will be less guys available in DXB to work days off to cover shortfalls. This is also contrary to current EK policy.

Will the market become tight enough for EK to change their position on these issues?

I think we are still a fair way off that yet, judging by the guys who are still coming. We haven't even started tapping the turbo prop market yet. History shows that EK is not forward looking in these issues. They tend to roll the dice and gamble that somewhere another airline will go broke just in time to provide the required amount of pilots. Remember we are not looking at huge numbers, only 250 a year. Given that EK can source from anywhere in the world (unlike Virgin, Qanas or J*) I would say the odds are in their favour, and so far history would support that.

V

V- I agree. I don't think there's any truth to this rumour. I was only speculating on what might happen, as suggested by TCOB on the previous page. Ultimately, they're only after a couple hundred guys a year. I don't see that as being that hard. Time will tell.... TT

Hoopla Hoopla, the EK circus is in town. Have you seen the elephants, have you seen the clown. ????? :p

I knew I should have copyrighted that saying when I first put it up on Qrewroom! :}

Still, I've been known to steal the occasional quote off others so no harm done! :ok:

Fascinating reading about the Oz base though. I don't think it's for me (too close to a QF command...maybe...perhaps....who knows) but the lack of schooling and accommodation and so on does address the issue that I had in the back of my mind as to why EK would bother with an Oz base. I always figured that for the money they'd have to offer that it'd be cheaper to slip crew rather than base them.

Interesting times indeed!

Labour Laws? Now there's an interesting concept. What I do know is that there aren't any in Oz at the moment. She's Howard's law of the jungle until Rudd gets in (ably advised by BB of course). :yuk:

At a fairwell for a mate on Friday night.

Lots of local drivers now looking overseas. Rumours everywhere, you know what they're like!

One big one doing the rounds was that EK have dropped their pure jet requirement. Not to mention some pretty outrageous claims of big big bucks on offer. (I mean Really big bucks). Checked the website, does not appear to be any changes.

Anyone else heard anything?

Has anyone got news from todays show in MEL.


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So Kamelf Hucker,

Do they require Jet time or don't they?

Thanks Max AB.

Have made a few further enquiries.

Have been told that because of my religion (which is on my birth certificate incidentally) that I'm screwed and that in all honesty my application probably wouldnt be considered.
I cant change my religion and neither would I lie about it!
If others have lied about their religion in order to get a job then thats their business and good on them.

Having to lie on an application form in order to get a job says alot about that prospective employer.

Also, wife soon to be bride (who possesses an Israeli passport) cant even enter the country (UAE).
And being a former officer in the Israeli armed forces................

Ah, for the equal opportunity employer!!

That's the point... The gumment owns the met office and they tell them never to publish a temperature above whatever (46 Celsius?) because of the OHS/Labour laws.

Funny, that, a met office that has a differently calibrated thermometer, and whose pronouncements are censored.

I wonder if private ownership of thermometers is illegal in the pit?

VH-CU

To my knowledge there is no religion that makes you unemployable at EK, even the one that we dare not speak.

Any feedback from the EK roadshows?

I talked to a QF CAPTAIN the other day of mid-level seniority who had an application with them. Hadn't heard of that one before.

I'll ask the question again;

Do they still require Jet time?

Anyone??

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Sorry for the implied sarcasm,

I'll try and make it clearer what I am asking.

What I meant by Pure-Jet was Jet as opposed to turbo-prop, you know jet engines, but driving propellors!

As the the difference between Pure-Jet and Jet, Kamelf Hucker, I do not have a freak'n clue what you are talking about. But I am prepared to be enlightened.

Sounds like a good interview question to me. Time to break out the books Krusty. Hmmmmm something to do with "bypass" .... Heard of it?

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