Emirates Coming to Town
 

Don,t Know whose interested but received this from a mate over there.




Representatives from Emirates Airline will be coming to conduct information sessions in Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane between 4th and 9th March 2007.

Details are:

Melbourne – Hilton on the Park, 192 Wellington Parade, Melbourne
4th March 9.00am – 12.00pm
2.00pm – 5.00pm
5th March 9.00am – 12.00pm

Sydney – Sofitel Wentworth, 61-101 Phillip Street, Sydney
6th March 6.00pm – 9.00pm
7th March 9.00am - 12.00pm
2.00pm – 5.00pm

Brisbane – Stamford Plaza Hotel, Cnr Edward and Margaret Streets, Brisbane
8th March 9.00am – 12.00pm
2.00pm – 5.00pm
9th March 9.00am – 12.00pm

The information sessions will provide more information on Emirates, our selection program, the benefits of living and working in Dubai (including detailed information on our salary package and other associated terms and conditions) and some personal perspectives from a current Emirates pilot. We will also be available to speak to you following the presentation to answer any additional queries you may have about Emirates careers or living in Dubai.

Emirates' minimum requirements for Direct Entry Captains and First Officers can be found on our careers website (www.emiratesgroupcareers.com).

To help us with our planning, please register your interest in attending a particular session by emailing [email protected]. Walk-ins are welcome.

Spouses/partners are also welcome to attend the information sessions.

We look forward to seeing you there.

Hi All,

Does anyone have info on what exactly goes on at these road shows.

Thanks,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:ok: :ok: :ok: :ok:

All you Virgins may want to read the Middle East Forum about life in Dubai.
I am in the Fragrant harbour and frequently visit Dubai on overnights and I can tell you it's not the place I would want to move to. 50c temps, real bad traffic, smoke/dust haze and it's getting more and more expensive by the day. The locals don't want you there and let you know it. One of our Captains was verbally bashed by a local in the crew hotel, turns out he was some big wig who hates "white trash". He and his security thugs hassled the Captain for quite a while and the hotel security refused to help because of who the local was.
Nice place, makes you feel really welcome doesn't it.
Please take a close look before jumping the VB ship, I know it's not rosey in VB either but boy I know where my family would rather live. Money ain't everything.

Living and working in a Muslim country may its challenges in the not too distant future.

Representatives from Jetstar will be coming to conduct gullability sessions in Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane between 14th and 19th March 2007.

Details are:

Melbourne – Airport Car Park, , Melbourne
14th March 9.00am – 12.00pm
2.00pm – 5.00pm
15th March 9.00am – 12.00pm

Sydney – Luna Park, Sydney
16th March 6.00pm – 9.00pm
17th March 9.00am - 12.00pm
2.00pm – 5.00pm

Brisbane – Parliament House (Ask for Beat's office), Brisbane
18th March 9.00am – 12.00pm
2.00pm – 5.00pm
19th March 9.00am – 12.00pm

The gullability sessions will provide more information for Jetstar on the actual bottom level of conditions likely to be accepted, our lowest bidder program, the benefits of living and working in Sunbury (including detailed information on our salary package...(tee-hee)... and other associated terms and conditions) and some personal perspectives from the current Jetstar pilot. We will also be available to speak at you following the presentation about any additional queries you may have about Jetstar careers or living in Sunbury however, answers are unlikely.

(A $5.00 non-refundable cover charge applies!)


;)

Buster...love your work.

ACMS,

Bloody classic mate, you don't live in Dubai but you are giving expert testimony about the place, and what gems they are.

Of course, one never raises a sweat in Hong Kong during summer, oh and those locals LOVE you GWAILOs. Confirm Hong kong belongs to communist China?.


What no traffic in Hongkong? HA. And YOU are giving advice about haze and dust, try the LUNG destroying pollution in Hongkong.


To all you virgins out there, I think ACMS was refering to staying away from the Fragrant harbour, and he was just a little confused when he wrote his post.:D

Didn't EK do this about a year ago?

Was there much of a take-up? Anyone know if many Aussie guys interviewed and accepted jobs in the sandpit?

Grit ya teeth,
Mate its not even summer yet and you are hot under the collar!!! You got to leave National joke, and don't have to defend your decision to anybody. Calm down, and enjoy your time off while you have it.

Yes they were over in Oz last may,i attended the Perth session they had.
They show you a promotional DVD and answer questions.

The requirements are still 2000 Hours jet >50,000kg.
It would seem that since they were over here less than 12 months ago they are not getting the right numbers applying or may need to lower the requirements for entry.

Maxweight

Thanks Mysalami,

You are right, you have calmed me right down.
Didnt think i mentioned my decision to come here, just putting some balance back into ACMSs post.

:ugh:

MMSOBGYTAST: the topic is Dubai, it wasn't about Hong Kong. I was just trying to help. Take it or leave it, the choice is yours my friend.

ACMS, The topic is EMIRATES COMING TO TOWN, and the question was What goes on at these road shows?

I just thought you were a little biased. Thats all my friend.

ACMS
 

Mate. With your pearler outburst as #3 contributer to this thread, no wonder others are having a go at you.
I don't defend living in Dubai, however as someone who frequents this place as irregularly as you, l find your contributions as some what meaningless.
I have been verbally abused in Australia more times than l care to remember, and not all of it was provoked. Can the Captain you speak of say the same? And, with refernce to Oz, l am not even of "Middle Eastern Appearance"!
I won't go into HKG / DXB comparison as it's chalk and cheese, but please let others make an informed decision without an emotional outburst like yours.
50 degrees has never been recorded in Dubai, but places l have worked in Australia have had temperatures like that. GA flying is like that.
Smoke and dust haze are true, but nothing like l have seen in HKG!
Is there anywhere in the world that isn't getting more expensive by the day? HKG perhaps is shrugging off developed/third world world trends?
This place is third world and there is no denying it, however there are good opportunities here for the right minded individual, even if they are not virgins.
Make an ill-informed decision and you will regret it.
halas

Been in the desert almost 10 years; almost 5000 PiC heavies. Seriously considering a Beech 1900 or Saab or Dash 8 job to live in a civilised country and come home. Up to you pal...

Selling EK & DXB
 

I got an all expences paid jolly last year to DXB in business class, 5* Movenpick hotel ...Thanks Emirates for your hospitality, but no thanks.;)

...and that is to be a First Officer????

No wonder they need regular visits to Australia to find crew. I am guessing there would only be a handful of those who want to move. Then again I suppose that is all they want?

Do Emirates discriminate on religious grounds or sex?

Was wondering if my girlfriend,an Australian citizen but Israeli national and former medical officer in the Israeli Military would be allowed to live in Dubai?

Also if Jewish by religion or female, would that preclude pilots from applying or being processed?

So far neither has been answered.

T

As editor of bringbackthecrusades.com I've had similar difficulty TIMMEEEE...

Since when is it wrong to voice an opinion in here???????
And it's not just my opinion either, go ask the roughly 70 EK Pilot's that quit last year why they left.
A very close mate is on the 777, has been for years and years. The information I get is first hand from him on one of my frequent trips to the pit. All I was trying to was get the VB guys and Girls to look at the "middle east" forum and get a balanced opinion on life in Dubai. So shoot me if I did the wrong thing pal.
Oh and the whole basis of this link is not only Emirates coming to town, it is quite obviously about Emirates recruiting and as such my post is totally relevent.
:ok:

The question that will be asked most frequently at these information sessions is: When is EK going to open bases in Australia?

That would take the "heat" out of the argument about living conditions in Dubai.

For them to get the pilot numbers that they need, they will eventually have to succumb, even though they don't want to. I know that a significant number of QF pilots would move to EK if they are based in Oz and are on similar money. Problems for EK would include all the current EK Oz expat pilots demanding that they be allowed to base themselves back in Oz.

Hit the nail on the head boeing, if there is any sort of seniority in EK, no new or recent hiree will stand a chance of getting an Oz base, in fact, they could get killed in the stampede.

ACMS - Mate, not wrong to voice an opinion. Since when is it wrong to point out flaws in that opinion?

You are big on quoting the numbers of EK pilots leaving. (Lots of CX leaving too from what my mates tell me in CX- going to greener better paying pastures). Did you talk to them and discover they left because of the points you made in your earlier post or might it have been for some other reason.

If you trying to get the VB guys to look at the Middle east forum as was your stated noble objective, you could have said -"Hey guys check out the discussions on the middle east forum".(which i'm sure they could locate anyway)

As I told you already the Link was on the EMIRATES road show. You are entitled to you insular opinion, I was just pointing out how useless your opinion was.

I have read your other posts on how Cathay is the perfect airline, and like the others that have replied to you, think that your opinions are both wrong and ill considered.

But Hey, feel free to say what you want. :ugh:

Ps, Im off for a swim on this glorious 27 deg day and I'll try not to get abused by any locals. Oh and no sign of any dust haze today.:p
(how is Honkas today?)

According to EK recruitment website : DEC - 8,000 total, 3,000 PIC multi crew multi eng jet a/c > 55 tonnes MTOW , 4,000 m/crew m/eng jet or turbo prop a/c MTOW 10 tonnes or more as P1 or P2.
F/O - 4,000 total, 2,000 m/crew m/eng jet a/c.......:hmm:

MMSOBGYTAST:-- yes mate enjoy the 2 to 3 months a year you can go to the beach without being fried alive.
You must be crazy not to know why lots of your Pilots are leaving. They hate Dubai, hate the pay, hate the traffic jams and you work their asses off, a lot go to early retirement or join companies like Jetstar Intl on much lower pay and conditions just to get away from the sand. That must tell you something about life in the sandpit hey? maybe you could read the middle east forum?
In the last 3 months Pilot's are leaving Cx mostly to go back to the states, UPS, SWA and FEDEX, a few to Europe as well. These guys never intended to stay here in the first place and maybe Cx shouldn't have taken them. The numbers are quite small overall.
I venture to suggest that most guys leave Cx not because they hate it here but, because an offer back home too good to refuse came up.
A lot of Cx retirees even extend past 55 at B scale wages to stay here, I wish they retired but they don't in the vast majority of cases.
I'm not saying there are no problems in Cx, unfortunately there are many.
I never said Cx was the perfect airline, go re-read my post in reply to guys slinging off at Cx. It seems to me that Ek standards are just as good as Cx, maybe better.
Oh a Hong Kong is ok today, overcast and around 23c. But that doesn't matter with my better roster I can go almost anywhere in Asia in 4 Hours, Skiing in Sapporo, beach in Phuket, beach in Bali, mountain hiking in Taiwan. And we can use the jump seat to help us get on. We are only 8 hours from Oz, a lot closer than you guys in the pit. So go on, enjoy the beach in Dubai while you can, don't forget the sunscreen my friend. Maybe you could go land mine clearing in Lebanon perhaps?
So at the Emirates roadshow in Australia they are going to discuss Gulfair recruitment to Bah? duh my post was relevent, you may not agree with it, but it was relevent none the less.

ACMS,

all of what you say can and does happen in the UAE, however it is not a usual occurrence and is certainly not indicative of life in general in Dubai.
I have spent a lot of time in Hong kong and know it is not the place for me, so I am quite happy with my life in Dubai. Even if I may wish to return to a more conventional life in OZ, nobody there is offering jobs that make that decision worthwhile yet, (for me). Having just arrived home from a trip to HKG I am very much looking forward to loading up my 4WD and heading off to the mountains for a secluded weekend of camping with the family. That is something you definitely can't do in your part of the world, if you can even afford to own a car that is. So it is a major difference in life style that makes the move to Dubai or else where a big decision once you get past the money and conditions of employment. Each to their own!

Unfortunately there are no easy answers anymore because there is good and bad with all the choices. Reading what 50 guys may be complaining about does not make it true for the other ~1600 pilots nor the problems of a close mate.

ACMS,

You are a sucker for punishment. Mate just get the facts right thats all. Too many generalisations from you and inaccurate information.

2-3months - wrong more like 6 months+, but yes it does get tooo bloody hot in summer.

I am not crazy, but i don't know why ALL the guys left Dubai as you assuredly do.
Hey, maybe the same thing goes for the EK guys as well. This is not home, and when the time is right I too will pack up and go back home.

Overcast hey (more like smoggy). With your better roster? How do you know what my roster is like. HA!, I just had 6 days off slumming it in OMAN. Off to Milan next for 3 days then 4 days off. Anywhere in asia in 4 hrs. HA HA ok fine if thats where you want to go. Europe is pretty close to here too you know.
Landmine clearing in Lebanon? What the? I'd suggest there are a tad few more land mines in your neck of the woods (cambodia et al) than mine.
Ah whats the point? I am no longer interested in comparing incomparable things to an incomprehensible person.

Ps The beach was lovely.;)

Don't forget to take your umbrella when you go outside today (acid rain and all).

(Skiing at Sapporo HA HA HA - yeah like Europe is so much worse):p

Shockwave
Just wanted to say how much I enjoyed your post - you have made your choice (or know where you don't want to be), you will look at options in Oz (if/when they become decent trade off), you perceive a lifestyle that suits your family regarding time off, you agree that everyone has to make their choices as fits their own needs/perceptions.
Seems pretty fair and logical.
Seems like someone who deals in the real world.:ok:

That will, unfortunately, piss a substantial number of Ppruner's off.
To quote Mr Kelly -"such is life."

Regards to all.

MMSOBGYTAST:- all reports say that Sapporo has some of the best powder skiing anywhere in the world.
Anyway..............Truth be told I don't much like Hk either, I'm staying here because I can't get as good a job in Oz. Generally speaking I like Cx and like the operation ( as said on other threads ) even if it does have a few kinks to be ironed out!!
I like the aircraft we operate and more importantly the guys and girls I fly with.
So it would have to be one hell of a good offer to up stumps here and leave for Oz, because that's about the only place I would move to.
Although If I wasn't in Cx I would most likely have been in Ek, and who knows what I might be saying then:ok:

ACMS and MMSOBGYTAST, are you sure you guys aren't married?? You would make the perfect couple:p Thanks for the entertainment though, I now know all the pros and cons about living in Hong Kong vs Dubai.....decisions decisions:D

Brown_hornet,

I'll save you the time going to the recruiting road show. Choose CX.

EK don't take Prop drivers with Cpls only. (Not yet anyways).

:D

Is this a PPrune first? A dick-measuring contest between pilots about who's got the BETTER conditions?! :eek:

Maybe things really ARE looking up....

Touche MMSOBGYTAST, it looks like I am stuck where I am until I get the vast amount of experience that EK are looking for in their pilots:ouch:

Actually it's even funnier than that. It's a dick-measuring contest about
"The sh*t hole I live in is better than the sh*thole you live in." Classic. Absolutely classic.......

Emirates to start Australian bases in the very near future.

impeccable source.....

Propaganda
 

You never did answer the question on what aircraft you got offered.

As the statement appears to have no relevance to the subject, just what is your point? Sounds like sour grapes to me.

TIMMEEE, Being jewish or female does not exclude you from flying with EK, we have both types here already. Just don't put Jew as your religion on any paper work or Athiest for that matter... As for your girlfriend, jewish or muslim, she cannot live with you unless you get married. Many couples do, but it is against the law. As for her past, I would say just don't state it anywhere, If she has an Australian passport then there should be no problem. If she applies for a job that requires a security check I would suggest that might be a concern, but not sure. Check with the Dept of Foreign Affairs maybe??
Now back to the pissing contest...

TCOB

I hope your sources are truly impeccable. CM said at the Second Officer briefing last year that he wasn't worried about pilots leaving QF in significant numbers unless EK started pilot bases in Oz. I suspect that his worst nightmare is about to happen. :D

Last one out,please turn off the lights.
:E
It would truly serve the QF management right!!!!!!! :ok:

Not compared to the total package of rent, school fees etc. paid in Dubai. If they opened a base, and that's a BIG if, they would pay as little as they thought they could get away with. I'd wager a weeks pay that a rate of about 180k for a Capt and about 100k F/O and they'd have 500+ apps inside of a week. Basically , I reckon they could pay significantly less than the 'going rate' and still be swamped with apps.