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soldier of fortune 16th Dec 2005 01:58

i am still very sceptical of all composite construction in a pressurized fusealge skin - especially when drunken yobbo drugged up junkie unlicenced baggage handlers drive baggage belt loaders at speed in the side of the fuse -i wonder how boeing will come up with a repair scheme for that- or has that been factored out of the equation.
or is it a case of go the plastic fantastic.

sof

Mr Seatback 2 16th Dec 2005 02:21

According to Boeing, the areas regularly subjected to high incidences of damage (ie. baggage doors, pax doors, servicing areas) will be reinforced on the 787 to withstand most impacts on the ground.

Where the composite skin is damaged beyond this reinforcement, engineers will be able to patch up the composite (in most cases) quicker than ever.

That's according to Boeing. It'll be interesting to see it happen in reality!

OhForSure 16th Dec 2005 06:52

SWH:


QF have agreed to pay less than the list price for a 737-800 for each of its 787's, the list price of the 737-800 is between US$63.5 -- 72.0 million. The list price for the 787-8 is between US$125.0 -- 135.0 million.
Mate, I'd love to know where you got that information...

404 Titan 16th Dec 2005 07:16

I'd also like to know where he go the information that CX paid US$100M for each B777-300ER because for the life of me I'm f**k*d where he got it from. CX and Boeing would be very reluctant to tell anyone for obvious reasons what they paid or received in any contract.

soldier of fortune 16th Dec 2005 08:03

another interesting point-is the fact that the b787 only requires a c-chk every 2 years and a d-chk every 12 years-as opposed to b747 and other boeing types every 6 to 7 years for d chks- can't see qantas investing much on the maintenance side of things for the type other than the basic line maint - i guess this will be more ammo for the heavy maint realignment project -ie with A380 being maintained oversea's for heavy maint- and more likely the b787 too -the future looks bleek for heavy maint at qf- but hey thats another topic all together

turbantime 16th Dec 2005 09:12

What does it mean when airlines purchase X amount of options?

Does this mean that they can jump the que when they feel the need to acquire more aircraft?

Same goes for the additional purchase rights bit.

Going Boeing 17th Dec 2005 04:29

My understanding is that "options" reserve production slots which if not taken up can be offered to other airlines who may want an earlier delivery than their existing order. I believe that the "rights for additional aircraft" allows Qantas to purchase these aircraft at the same price, fit-out and conditions as the first order. Any orders past the first 115 aircraft would have to be re-negotiated and would normally be dearer as Boeing know that the customer would prefer to order more of the same type rather than introduce another type.

Isn't it wonderful that QF are Going Boeing!!!!! :ok:

lowerlobe 17th Dec 2005 20:16

Qantas announced today that they will be bringing back their ex 707’s to bolster their fleet until the new Boeing 787 aircraft are ready with the motto of “yesterdays technology tomorrow”.

Included in the purchase is John Travolta’s ex Qantas 707, which is already painted in Qantas’s colours.The only hitch is that they will have to paint all the other aircraft in the old paint scheme as well but this is a small price to pay compared to the boards bonus’s for not buying new aircraft.

However, John has offered to train the rest of Qantas’s mainline pilots as none of them are capable of flying an aircraft with out computers and Qantas is also scouring RSL clubs around the nation for ex flight engineers and navigators. A cheaper option though is to buy hand held GPS units from Harvey Norman and mount them in the flight decks Qantas IT said.

Qantas CEO Darth Dixon and the Chairman Michael Jackson said that the purchase was in line with the company’s sustainable future and Australian employee minimizing program.

The RAAF still has approximately $1 billion dollars worth of spares for the 707’s which Qantas has purchased for a bargain of $10 billion .Qantas has also purchased the RAAF’s 707’s as well to be used a mid flight re fuellers saving the company from having to slip cabin crew in slip ports, as the new aircraft with in flight re-fuelling will be the hub busters that Boeing and Airbus could not supply and will fly non stop to anywhere.

The tech crew are happy as well because they have admitted that they would prefer to be on the flight deck than anywhere else as that way none of their ex wives lawyers can talk to them as well as thinking about all the overtime they are making .The company has also made a deal with King Gee to make safari suits and pelaco blendene shirts and crosby hush puppy’s for the tech crew so they feel at home again on the 707.A tech crew spokesperson Captain Kearnstein said that the tech crew were happy because they could save money from not going to fatties anymore and had sourced a soup kitchen in London with a bottle shop next door for cheap beer.

The flight attendants association of Australia spokesperson General Capitulation said that is was ok with the union as Ben Dover and the other officials never really liked Singapore and Bangkok anyway.We realise that the company is in a tough position with the cost of fuel and Darths financial commitments to a number of people so this is a welcome announcement and we are only too happy to bend over and help .No other cabin crew are as flexible as we are ,in fact “I’m willing to bend over backwards and give lip service anytime” Ben has told us.

The issue of cabin crew rest has been solved with the faaa idea of the company installing soft flooring around the doors and supplying the crew with pillows and normison.


The tech crew union has agreed with the idea of pilots wearing their safari suits in first class seats as their rest area . “Well ,we are senior company managers” one captain was heard to say as his wife was dropping him off at the Jetbase.In fact you could hear her laughing as she was driving off into the busy morning traffic ,so she must have agreed.

The company is also saving a fortune on in flight entertainment and maintenance because there isn’t any .There is also the saving to be had because now there is no need to have second officers based in Singapore.

Qantas shares traded 15cents higher with the announcement

soldier of fortune 17th Dec 2005 20:20

what the F... is that all about

QFinsider 17th Dec 2005 21:25

that my friend is a succinct state of nation address for those at the Rat.
I wonder where the "growth" in the mainline fleet is coming from...

Hmmm 767 needs replacement.
Hmmm 743-ancient
Hmmm half of the 744 fleet bloody old (OJA-OJM)
Hmmm 737-400 ?
Doesn't leave many aircraft for Joke* Intl does it?
Given they will be 20% of mainline according to what the perpetual asswi*e Dixon said. I reckon the order is something like 50or so short......

Hence perhaps the inference that we can continue flogging the stuff on line now. What is the average fleet age at QF? Compare it to our competitors
Qantas IT-Yesterday's technology tomorrow. (applies allover the joint)

I read on crew room a very fortright tender process. Multiple Commodore 64's and state of the art 286 PC's are being sdought for our IT department



Just wait till we see how far Capitaulating to the EBA threats gets us...

Have we got any slots to fly Joke* international?
:mad:

019360 17th Dec 2005 21:52

Irony, sarcasm, satire,mindless fun, too much red, more than one of the above.

Couldn't be worse than an outfit that "Still Calls Australia Home" except when it comes to actual Australian based jobs. More of a concept really. When QF's 49% ownership restriction is finally lifted (and if some of the nominee shareholders were known maybe it already is majority overseas owned) when most of the jobs are outsourced and when even the QF brand doesn't cover the majority of the passengers...exactly what is left to be Australian about Qantas?

hotnhigh 17th Dec 2005 22:01

Sensational post lowerlobe. Only thing that you didn't mention was the newly introduced elevator music that greets you on the way to report at QCC. This weeks cheery christmas track...'Joyce to the world.'

Animalclub 20th Dec 2005 05:24

QFinsider mentions "flogging the stuff on the internet" reminds me of the QF ad in the LAX Times in the early 70's where QF advertised for sale

... 2 x Boeing 707's "driven by two little old ladies from Pasadena...

They sold 'em.


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