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Gidday,
How many times does it have to be said,
Those who went back are $c8B$.
Those who did NOT go back are NOT $c8b$
As to the passing of time and the writing of history, many who thought they were safe in An$c8b have had the rug removed and are scrabbling around the world as others have done before.
Some influence may have been brought to bear as to who gets hired where, people are now just as entitled to that "right" as the $c8b$ were "right" in previous documentation.
SIA is "Terminating in accordance with the appropriate clause" already, some of them older 89ers, many more to go from unknown areas, possibly "Foriegn Bases" which will catch a few ex An$c8B people and many others.
All who take the step of going "overseas" run many risks, most will say they are "doing fine", most have dramas that reduce grown men to tears, wives to histerics and families are rarely the same ever again.
If, and really if you are half lucky, it will be a positive time, but there is NO sure bet on that.
The world will rotate at the same speed regardless of the decisions of any of us lower mortals. Making decisions is a personal choice, making MORAL ones was too hard for some in the past, their turn to now wander around in insecurity and foreign parts.
Character building stuff, hope they have the foundation to build on, have my doubts when you read the drivel and crap they still go on with justifying poor decisions to $c8b, no one will forget, no one will forgive what was done to them, EVER.
How many times does it have to be said,
Those who went back are $c8B$.
Those who did NOT go back are NOT $c8b$
As to the passing of time and the writing of history, many who thought they were safe in An$c8b have had the rug removed and are scrabbling around the world as others have done before.
Some influence may have been brought to bear as to who gets hired where, people are now just as entitled to that "right" as the $c8b$ were "right" in previous documentation.
SIA is "Terminating in accordance with the appropriate clause" already, some of them older 89ers, many more to go from unknown areas, possibly "Foriegn Bases" which will catch a few ex An$c8B people and many others.
All who take the step of going "overseas" run many risks, most will say they are "doing fine", most have dramas that reduce grown men to tears, wives to histerics and families are rarely the same ever again.
If, and really if you are half lucky, it will be a positive time, but there is NO sure bet on that.
The world will rotate at the same speed regardless of the decisions of any of us lower mortals. Making decisions is a personal choice, making MORAL ones was too hard for some in the past, their turn to now wander around in insecurity and foreign parts.
Character building stuff, hope they have the foundation to build on, have my doubts when you read the drivel and crap they still go on with justifying poor decisions to $c8b, no one will forget, no one will forgive what was done to them, EVER.
Moderate, Modest & Mild.
"As for identities, whoever thinks I am/have posted as a number of others has made a serious error. I'm not.
Let`s not be shy, ppkid - YOU certainly aren`t when it comes to naming OTHERS.
However some of your "acquaintances" don`t share your same sense of "007-ness". Word travels pretty fast these days, as I found out...but so what? As long as one is willing to stand by what he says, then nom de plumes are a mere formality.
And one 1 count - and 1 only - you have been CONSISTENT, that of pronouncing your PRIDE in being a sc#b....as was Kaptin_X, CitizenXX, and Captain Schlonger.
It came from the person who was on the receiving end!!
And speaking of Stat Decs, to back up your "solid evidence" - you ARE going to let us know that you WILL be standing by what YOU said....aren`t you!!
The only "solid evidence" that comes from YOU, is flushed into the Tonle Sap from the sewage system, ppkid.
Actually I haven`t seen much at all about 1989 per se - the thread was titled "Still flying after Ansett", featuring YOU and an F/O with the Ladies and Gentlemen of the former Royal Air Cambodge, and an opening narrative that indicated that Ross Martin suffers from SERIOUS SITUATIONAL UNAWARENESS.
It really HAS been fun hearing from you, ppkid, about Ross Martin, and the others.
Enjoy life up there, don`t forget to pay your taxes WHEREVER you are, and PM me when you have that Statutory Declaration.
I won`t be holding breath though, you`ll probably be too busy polishing that Victoria Cross!!
Let`s not be shy, ppkid - YOU certainly aren`t when it comes to naming OTHERS.
However some of your "acquaintances" don`t share your same sense of "007-ness". Word travels pretty fast these days, as I found out...but so what? As long as one is willing to stand by what he says, then nom de plumes are a mere formality.
And one 1 count - and 1 only - you have been CONSISTENT, that of pronouncing your PRIDE in being a sc#b....as was Kaptin_X, CitizenXX, and Captain Schlonger.
As for lashing out with a nav bag in a temper tantrum, where did that bull$hit come from?
I merely passed it on.
The only "solid evidence" that comes from YOU, is flushed into the Tonle Sap from the sewage system, ppkid.
I think a good number of those who have been posting here, have caused this thread to degenerate into another petty name calling, silly monotone of their version of 89.
It really HAS been fun hearing from you, ppkid, about Ross Martin, and the others.
Enjoy life up there, don`t forget to pay your taxes WHEREVER you are, and PM me when you have that Statutory Declaration.
I won`t be holding breath though, you`ll probably be too busy polishing that Victoria Cross!!
Keyborad time>pole time.
Neither of you are going to get your 900 hours at this rate.
But then we are all sitting on our backsides at the moment sucking wind.
Keep up the entertainment.
Neither of you are going to get your 900 hours at this rate.
But then we are all sitting on our backsides at the moment sucking wind.
Keep up the entertainment.
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Fruity-Good observation on the engine cowl.
Most probably some guy behind the scenes doing his bit.Might be servicing the starter, I think it's on that side.
Good to see some ex AN guys getting work.
Most probably some guy behind the scenes doing his bit.Might be servicing the starter, I think it's on that side.
Good to see some ex AN guys getting work.
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Amos, Not going to water, just bored with the petty dialogue. Simple.
KM - You're making a wild assmption, and that is that I am the prson in the centre of the picture, and I am not. You have corectly named him, but it is not I. It seems tha you have a penchant for not objectively analysing what is presented before you speak, or think.
Greybeard, and so are those who signed, even though they subsequently withdrew. Please refer to Alex's definitive history of the pilots' dispute, and lump KM in with the rest of those low down creeps.
Km as for pronouncing my pride in making a rational decision, there are many who do so, so by making the assumptiuon that anyone who does so is one and the same person is foolhardy. Please note: All dogs have tails - so does that mean that everything with a tail is a dog? Mmmm! more cock eyed logic.
oicur - I agree. Most are all embarrassed by KM's input, and it's such a shame because when he gets off the 89 bull$hit, he actually makes a reasonable contribution. It's when he runs off at the mouth that he loses credibility. Just a few days ago, a friend emailed me and said just that - he can make worthwhile input if he stays away from 89.
bulkhead, I have no knowledge of the individual leaving Mekong, but he may have given notice without broadcasting it.
KM - You're making a wild assmption, and that is that I am the prson in the centre of the picture, and I am not. You have corectly named him, but it is not I. It seems tha you have a penchant for not objectively analysing what is presented before you speak, or think.
Greybeard, and so are those who signed, even though they subsequently withdrew. Please refer to Alex's definitive history of the pilots' dispute, and lump KM in with the rest of those low down creeps.
Km as for pronouncing my pride in making a rational decision, there are many who do so, so by making the assumptiuon that anyone who does so is one and the same person is foolhardy. Please note: All dogs have tails - so does that mean that everything with a tail is a dog? Mmmm! more cock eyed logic.
oicur - I agree. Most are all embarrassed by KM's input, and it's such a shame because when he gets off the 89 bull$hit, he actually makes a reasonable contribution. It's when he runs off at the mouth that he loses credibility. Just a few days ago, a friend emailed me and said just that - he can make worthwhile input if he stays away from 89.
bulkhead, I have no knowledge of the individual leaving Mekong, but he may have given notice without broadcasting it.
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I moaned I wailed I cried, complained
For years ‘til the Feds in time disdained
To fix the problem and launch a claim
For a rise in pay for all in their name
But the going was tough and I failed
To stand strong with colleagues I hailed
So I deserted my mates to fall at the feet
Of a big fat man we all called Sir Pete!
Also known as the scabs' Eptitaph
For years ‘til the Feds in time disdained
To fix the problem and launch a claim
For a rise in pay for all in their name
But the going was tough and I failed
To stand strong with colleagues I hailed
So I deserted my mates to fall at the feet
Of a big fat man we all called Sir Pete!
Also known as the scabs' Eptitaph
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amos2 May not have been in the industry as long as you mate, to you I may be a novice. What ever has got up your tail pipe certainly has stopped you from looking at the BIGGER picture. Hope you get better soon mate, then maybe you could rejoin the rest of humanity!
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The sooner everyone still in the aviation industry, no matter where in the world, realise that the industry as a whole is well & truly stuffed, & move on to a better life; the better.
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"I'm pround to be a scab, it doesn't matter what I did, I'm proud to be a scab, it doesn't matter what I did..."
Repeat - over and over and over again, and you might eventually convince yourself. But you'll never convince anyone else - except similarly-spotted leopards.
Ever.
It's like saying: "Saddam Hussein? Oh, yes, he did terrible thigs, but it was fourteen years ago, so let's forget it and put it all behind us." Simply doesn't cut it for those who were affected by what you 'sensible' people did.
Repeat - over and over and over again, and you might eventually convince yourself. But you'll never convince anyone else - except similarly-spotted leopards.
Ever.
It's like saying: "Saddam Hussein? Oh, yes, he did terrible thigs, but it was fourteen years ago, so let's forget it and put it all behind us." Simply doesn't cut it for those who were affected by what you 'sensible' people did.
Youve got to feel sorry for the young captains from AN who are being treated as 89ers and were not even there most of these guys have had it harder than anybody and a few are still looking for work.
Dragonair is one who treats all captains as scabs no matter how hard they plead , it is a sad world when these people are branded of something that happened while they were in GA...
Dragonair is one who treats all captains as scabs no matter how hard they plead , it is a sad world when these people are branded of something that happened while they were in GA...
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Unfortunately a few of these young Captains were pretty well indoctrinated and contaminated by the unclean.
Whilst still in Ansett some have been known to shoot their mouths off about how stupid the 89'ers were. Now they are all tarred as scab sympathisers. 89'ers are in authority in many major airlines now and as one put it to me recently. "Why take a chance."
Whilst still in Ansett some have been known to shoot their mouths off about how stupid the 89'ers were. Now they are all tarred as scab sympathisers. 89'ers are in authority in many major airlines now and as one put it to me recently. "Why take a chance."
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bonvol,
May I be so bold as to suggest that you edit your post, and substitute 'indoctrinate' with a more correct/suitable word. "Indoctrinate' in that context makes no sense at all - a litle like most posts by 89ers.
Perhaps you could use 'contaminate' - it's suitably offensive. An optional few f*&%$@&g $cabs would probably fit somewhere as well.
Ramboflyer, Doesn't it tell us something of the mentality of the 89ers who hold those positions of authority to which bonvol alludes? I would have thought so, and the assumption one would be compelled to make is that they are 'bottom feeders at the shallow end of the gene pool.' What a great expression that is, and one for which I am unable to claim credit, but credit for which I give to a post 89 pilot who is a most perceptive gentleman. He's also a good mate in spite of me being a $cab.
May I be so bold as to suggest that you edit your post, and substitute 'indoctrinate' with a more correct/suitable word. "Indoctrinate' in that context makes no sense at all - a litle like most posts by 89ers.
Perhaps you could use 'contaminate' - it's suitably offensive. An optional few f*&%$@&g $cabs would probably fit somewhere as well.
Ramboflyer, Doesn't it tell us something of the mentality of the 89ers who hold those positions of authority to which bonvol alludes? I would have thought so, and the assumption one would be compelled to make is that they are 'bottom feeders at the shallow end of the gene pool.' What a great expression that is, and one for which I am unable to claim credit, but credit for which I give to a post 89 pilot who is a most perceptive gentleman. He's also a good mate in spite of me being a $cab.
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