ATC vote to take Protected Industrial action against Airservices Australia.
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I don't see why Air Services should give anything to the current workforce. The current staff turnover is one of the lowest of any government department. If things are so terrible as people on this forum keep complaining about, then why is our retention so high.
The board has the full support from the minister, he knows the retention numbers and I can guarantee you that he will be in no rush to support the union.
The same voices who complain and post about everything over and over again should just go. But they won't, they will just keep enjoying their massive paycheck, unlimited sick leave and 6 weeks of leave every year.
The board has the full support from the minister, he knows the retention numbers and I can guarantee you that he will be in no rush to support the union.
The same voices who complain and post about everything over and over again should just go. But they won't, they will just keep enjoying their massive paycheck, unlimited sick leave and 6 weeks of leave every year.
you can’t keep anyone!
you’re literally shutting towers and airspace!
the travelling public deserves to know the truth.
ridiculous comment. Absolutely disconnected from reality.
as a pilot I’m shocked by the lack of risk analysis.
you need to pay more. Too bad. That’s reality
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I predict that before 2024 is over, there will be a period of days or weeks where movements at major Australian airports are reduced to less than 50% of normal movements due to a combination of Industrial action ( aircrew + ATC+ ground staff) and there will be a very predictable outcry of shock and horror and the inevitable enquiries demanded.
I am willing to bet two stubbies that this will happen.
I am willing to bet two stubbies that this will happen.
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I don't see why Air Services should give anything to the current workforce. The current staff turnover is one of the lowest of any government department. If things are so terrible as people on this forum keep complaining about, then why is our retention so high.
The board has the full support from the minister, he knows the retention numbers and I can guarantee you that he will be in no rush to support the union.
The same voices who complain and post about everything over and over again should just go. But they won't, they will just keep enjoying their massive paycheck, unlimited sick leave and 6 weeks of leave every year.
The board has the full support from the minister, he knows the retention numbers and I can guarantee you that he will be in no rush to support the union.
The same voices who complain and post about everything over and over again should just go. But they won't, they will just keep enjoying their massive paycheck, unlimited sick leave and 6 weeks of leave every year.
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I don't see why Air Services should give anything to the current workforce. The current staff turnover is one of the lowest of any government department. If things are so terrible as people on this forum keep complaining about, then why is our retention so high.
The board has the full support from the minister, he knows the retention numbers and I can guarantee you that he will be in no rush to support the union.
The same voices who complain and post about everything over and over again should just go. But they won't, they will just keep enjoying their massive paycheck, unlimited sick leave and 6 weeks of leave every year.
The board has the full support from the minister, he knows the retention numbers and I can guarantee you that he will be in no rush to support the union.
The same voices who complain and post about everything over and over again should just go. But they won't, they will just keep enjoying their massive paycheck, unlimited sick leave and 6 weeks of leave every year.
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Former staff who left can stay overseas. They didn't show any loyalty to the company so I don't see why ASA should offer them any thing more than what the trainees from the college get. Overseas providers are no where near as good as what is in Australia and those staff have probably de-skilled, making them no more valuable than what comes from the college.
Everyone already knows they are gaming the system.
The obvious solution is to roster the overtime the same way as other shifts. The EBA stipulates that reasonable overtime should be completed, I don't see why controllers should not do 1-2 additional shifts every 2-3 weeks. This is normal in other companies and it only seems to be the controllers that have a problem with it. ASA has a robust fatigue management system and therefor the constant complaining about fatigue is absolute rubbish.
The airlines and customers should not have to face delays just because the controllers don't want to play their part in the system. We need a clean out and those who don't want to support the company should just go.
The airlines and customers should not have to face delays just because the controllers don't want to play their part in the system. We need a clean out and those who don't want to support the company should just go.
It is obvious to everyone that this is organized. Sydney had only 2 shifts to cover and no one would agree to reasonable overtime as required in the EBA.
Air Services needs to start motivating those who do not enough over time by rejecting pay scale increases and leave requests.
Air Services needs to start motivating those who do not enough over time by rejecting pay scale increases and leave requests.
I do ponder your motivations, I guess many ponder mine.
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It's all happening
Airport strikes set for Monday amid deadlock
ARFF: Airport strikesAirline passengers planning to travel over the school holidays are facing a nervous wait over the next 48 hours, with crisis talks between the Aviation Branch of the United Firefighters Union (UFU) and airport operator Airservices Australia remaining deadlocked ahead of Monday’s scheduled national four-hour airports strike.
The UFU said on Thursday there had still been no breakthrough in the negotiations over minimum staffing levels the union is pushing for. These have been roped into the bargaining process for pay and conditions where the federal employers’ hands have been effectively tied by the Australian Public Service Commission (APSC) after it sealed a deal with the Community and Public Sector Union (CPSU).
Unions outside the CPSU are not accepting the deal because, among several other things, the 11.2% wage rise the CPSU agreed to offset otherwise higher pay for a workplace right to flexible work that cannot be extended to police, firies, tradies and field staff, leaving frontline workers behind desk drivers.
Airport strikes called off as aviation firefighters secure in-principle deal
ARFF: Airport strikes called off
Nationwide strikes by aviation firefighters scheduled for Monday that threatened to ground school holiday travellers have been called off at the last minute after federal employer Airservices reached an in-principle agreement over fire crew availability and numbers.
In a statement issued late Thursday, the aviation branch of the United Firefighters Union (UFU) said the “work stoppage on 15 April will not proceed” and that they “are satisfied that their key concerns have been addressed by the in-principal agreement”.
The breakthrough in the dispute suggests the potent threat of industrial action across the aviation sector may have been enough to tip the hand of senior Labor hardheads to allow pay increases outside the 11.2% over three years that the Australian Public Service Commission negotiated with the Community and Public Sector Union in return for the right to work from home.
ARFF: Airport strikesAirline passengers planning to travel over the school holidays are facing a nervous wait over the next 48 hours, with crisis talks between the Aviation Branch of the United Firefighters Union (UFU) and airport operator Airservices Australia remaining deadlocked ahead of Monday’s scheduled national four-hour airports strike.
The UFU said on Thursday there had still been no breakthrough in the negotiations over minimum staffing levels the union is pushing for. These have been roped into the bargaining process for pay and conditions where the federal employers’ hands have been effectively tied by the Australian Public Service Commission (APSC) after it sealed a deal with the Community and Public Sector Union (CPSU).
Unions outside the CPSU are not accepting the deal because, among several other things, the 11.2% wage rise the CPSU agreed to offset otherwise higher pay for a workplace right to flexible work that cannot be extended to police, firies, tradies and field staff, leaving frontline workers behind desk drivers.
Airport strikes called off as aviation firefighters secure in-principle deal
ARFF: Airport strikes called off
Nationwide strikes by aviation firefighters scheduled for Monday that threatened to ground school holiday travellers have been called off at the last minute after federal employer Airservices reached an in-principle agreement over fire crew availability and numbers.
In a statement issued late Thursday, the aviation branch of the United Firefighters Union (UFU) said the “work stoppage on 15 April will not proceed” and that they “are satisfied that their key concerns have been addressed by the in-principal agreement”.
The breakthrough in the dispute suggests the potent threat of industrial action across the aviation sector may have been enough to tip the hand of senior Labor hardheads to allow pay increases outside the 11.2% over three years that the Australian Public Service Commission negotiated with the Community and Public Sector Union in return for the right to work from home.
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Somebody blinked
Guess it is getting just a little bit too embarrassing. Frankly I am surprised. I thought embarassment was way back in the rear view.
Guess it is getting just a little bit too embarrassing. Frankly I am surprised. I thought embarassment was way back in the rear view.
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Guess it is getting just a little bit too embarrassing.
The pay and conditions need to improve significantly right across the industry and although it will happen, it won’t be pretty.
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Regardless of the result of the potential PIA, the fact that TIBA exists now as the acceptable norm and the risks and workloads it puts on to Pilots and ATCs is a disgrace.
It is the professionalism of both pilots and ATC that prevent disaster and nothing else. I hear stories of the chaos when some of those east coast sectors between Sydney and Brisbane are TIBA.
Heads should roll at the executive and board level of AsA to have allowed it to get to this. Well done to the operational folk that make it still work.
It is the professionalism of both pilots and ATC that prevent disaster and nothing else. I hear stories of the chaos when some of those east coast sectors between Sydney and Brisbane are TIBA.
Heads should roll at the executive and board level of AsA to have allowed it to get to this. Well done to the operational folk that make it still work.
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"Heads should roll at the executive and board level of AsA to have allowed it to get to this. Well done to the operational folk that make it still work."
The Exec branch just keep shuffling the deckchairs so that no one can ever be accountable "hey I just got here and am here to help" fast fwd 6months new person same talk.
Board is invisible. CEO is on the Board.
The Exec branch just keep shuffling the deckchairs so that no one can ever be accountable "hey I just got here and am here to help" fast fwd 6months new person same talk.
Board is invisible. CEO is on the Board.
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Maybe unions (including pilots) need to start explaining the real situation to the media. Enough is enough.
pay your staff!
pay your staff!
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19 year olds content generating the latest in click-bait.
There is no investigative journalism anymore..
Exactly as corporate thieves like it.
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