ATC contributed to 15% of flight delays in December
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And reputation precedes the organisation internationally.
It is also not on the list of wanted vocations for an immigration visa.
And, experienced ATCO's are in demand worldwide.
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I know of 3 ex-ASA ATCs who are International ATCs (in the real sense) who have applied to return and AsA have marked their applications - UNSUCCESSFUL.
Your application has been assessed ... and unfortunately you have been deemed unsuccessful to progress to the next stage.
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No age limit but statistically the older you are the harder it gets to pass - we all get mentally slower and less flexible with age. You at 40 will find it harder than you at 25 but maybe easier than someone else at 25.That said it's you being measured against a standard based on nothing other than you demonstrating your abilities.
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I’m sure there would be some takers if the package was right, regardless of the fact that pretty much everywhere on the planet is recruiting at the moment.
Several things comes to mind, Overseas ANSPs are recruiting (hence the flow of ATCs is likely to be the other way). 457 visas are no longer available. International ATCs need to learn the "Australian way" as Australia is far from ICAO compliant and we have some orphaned equipment that no-one else uses. Most foreign recruited ATCs have returned back home at some point. And since this is a rumour network, to work with the new OneSky you need to be an Australian citizen.
I know of 3 ex-ASA ATCs who are International ATCs (in the real sense) who have applied to return and AsA have marked their applications - UNSUCCESSFUL.
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I know of 3 ex-ASA ATCs who are International ATCs (in the real sense) who have applied to return and AsA have marked their applications - UNSUCCESSFUL.
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Every ANSP on the planet is short at the minute, there’s only so much papering over the cracks you can do. It’s a romantic idea to ab-initio recruit your way out of it, but it takes years. This is the same issue everywhere is having right now.
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There is currently a HUGE shortage of Aircraft Controllers in the USA, and several different type of USA companies can use your services!
The demand for Air Traffic Controllers in the USA will only get worse over the coming years. Now is the time to start your career in America!
If you are interested in working in the USA, you can do so by getting a USA Green Card under the NIW-EB2 program.
The demand for Air Traffic Controllers in the USA will only get worse over the coming years. Now is the time to start your career in America!
If you are interested in working in the USA, you can do so by getting a USA Green Card under the NIW-EB2 program.
AUKUS for ATCs!!
Would anyone living in Australia seriously contemplate moving to the USA right now?
And what's more, working at the FAA?
Now if you reversed the offer ..
And what's more, working at the FAA?
Now if you reversed the offer ..
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If you haven't done it before, about 30.
LGW gets trotted as the beacon of all things single runway.
LGW 26L and 08R have a displaced threshold and taxiways that enter the runway prior to the landing threshold, so the departing is able to line up sooner than would be the case at eg MEL 16 B, or SYD 16R A1/B1/B2. Simple maths really as the aircraft is in position to roll as soon as the lander is vacating via the suitably spaced RETs. Gatwick has a declared capacity of 55 movements per hour and has effective ATFM tools to more easily switch between ARR and DEP biases.
LGW 26L and 08R have a displaced threshold and taxiways that enter the runway prior to the landing threshold, so the departing is able to line up sooner than would be the case at eg MEL 16 B, or SYD 16R A1/B1/B2. Simple maths really as the aircraft is in position to roll as soon as the lander is vacating via the suitably spaced RETs. Gatwick has a declared capacity of 55 movements per hour and has effective ATFM tools to more easily switch between ARR and DEP biases.
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To be fair - it means 85% of delays aren’t due to ATC…
****ty infrastructure, outsourcing, lack of crew, weather.
Is 15% an unusual number? ATC delays into Perth are crazy at the moment (especially in busy days), but then they have to work with a single runway half the time, no high speed taxi-ways, half of the flights have to drag their arses down to ‘D’ to vacate. The infrastructure is terrible - at least in Perth
****ty infrastructure, outsourcing, lack of crew, weather.
Is 15% an unusual number? ATC delays into Perth are crazy at the moment (especially in busy days), but then they have to work with a single runway half the time, no high speed taxi-ways, half of the flights have to drag their arses down to ‘D’ to vacate. The infrastructure is terrible - at least in Perth
15% to me is an absolute disgrace that is being filtered down for blame to the Controller on the floor. That is just unfair and devious on behalf of management.
Australian ATC is in my opinion one of the best on earth, training, safety management, expedition but all based around what the person at the console is permitted to do.
I've been out of dodge for some time and am very aware of what my ex brothers and sisters have to put up with. I'm one that since the Tongan auto mail said no more ED has enjoyed my days off. You can't expect an allegedly first world system to run based on a dice roll.
Hey, I've got the same issues in my current employ. I'm sure AsA big bigs are reading this. Let's chat. PM for off the record attempts to help each other.
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I was going to call BS on the 15%, but as someone pouted out that's probably only departures, if it was arrivals it would be over 50% in Perth.
Gatwick handles roughly double the number of aircraft movements as Perth with 1 runway, far more complex and busy airspace and mostly worse weather. Yes I can hear all the BS excuses about high speed taxiways etc but really, 1 runway with high speed taxiways is better than 2?
Let's not try to polish a turd here, some bright sparks in ASA hierarchy have decided their KPIs are more important than moving air traffic so the ATC peeps have basically said "you give us x amount of controllers, we will handle x amount of aircraft", that comes from inside ASA.
Makes me laugh when the government gets on their pathetic little EV bandwagon meanwhile 100s of tons of avtur are being wasted each week and that's just into Perth
Gatwick handles roughly double the number of aircraft movements as Perth with 1 runway, far more complex and busy airspace and mostly worse weather. Yes I can hear all the BS excuses about high speed taxiways etc but really, 1 runway with high speed taxiways is better than 2?
Let's not try to polish a turd here, some bright sparks in ASA hierarchy have decided their KPIs are more important than moving air traffic so the ATC peeps have basically said "you give us x amount of controllers, we will handle x amount of aircraft", that comes from inside ASA.
Makes me laugh when the government gets on their pathetic little EV bandwagon meanwhile 100s of tons of avtur are being wasted each week and that's just into Perth
I've mentioned before and I'm pretty much commiting returning suicide (I'm on the black list) but this bull**** that Jason throws up about we have enough ATCs is misleading in the extreme. Group numbers might be 15,1, 13.8, 20.5. That in AsA ideal adds up to 50,4. No it doesn't. For every point something, that is 1. If you need a console for 1 minute, that's an entire shift.
Reading the ongoing TIBA NIOTAMs I'm not involved but I was last time. Nothing has changed in 15 years. The only constant is Jason. I know him, good bloke, destroying the company. He got his head start brown nosing in 95/96 when he relieved as the centre manager in Melbourne. Did about 5 minutes on the tools then was indoctrinated by the decade of fools that ran the place.
I won't be one to comment on how to fix this. I have ideas but noone cares what operational people think.
Good luck.
Last edited by Plazbot; 2nd Feb 2024 at 08:32.