Dreamliners to PX
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Boeing annouces K3 billion sale of two Dreamliner to PX
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Airline orders two aircraft to support regional growth
June 7, 2023The NationalBusinessAIR Niugini has ordered two fuel-efficient 787-8 Dreamliners from aircraft manufacturer Boeing to support the growth of the carrier’s long-haul fleet, says Air Niugini acting chief executive officer Gary Seddon.The jets would enable the national flag carrier to fly new routes and boost capacity for inbound tourism.
Seddon said in a statement: “Signing this contract with Boeing for the purchase of two modern, widebody 787 Dreamliners will enable Air Niugini to grow its network across Asia, Australia, and New Zealand and fulfill its mission as the premier airline in Papua New Guinea, providing the best air service in the region.”
Seddon did not state the cost of these two jets, but the Government was acquiring and leasing new aircrafts at a cost of nearly K3 billion subject to National Executive Council (NEC) decision.
He also did not specify when these would arrive.
More than 85 customers around the world had placed orders for more than 1,600 Dreamliners, making the 787 Dreamliner the fastest-selling widebody airplane in history.
Since entering service in 2011, the 787 family’s fuel efficiency, flexibility and range have enabled airlines to open more than 350 new nonstop routes.
Boeing vice president, commercial sales and marketing, Southeast Asia and Oceania Erika Pearson said: “The excellent capability of the 787 allows Air Niugini to open Port Moresby to more destinations, increasing tourism and economic growth in the South Pacific.”
“The Dreamliner’s flexibility, outstanding efficiency and unmatched passenger comfort would enable Air Niugini to provide improved long-haul connectivity to the islands,” he said.
Built with lightweight composite materials and powered by advanced engines, the 787 Dreamliner can fly up to 20 per cent more passengers while reducing fuel use and emissions by 25 per cent.
The 787-8’s range can reach up to 13,530 kilometres in a typical two-class configuration.
Boeing had worked with Air Niugini for more than 45 years.
PNG govt plans to 'build new airline'
Papua New Guinea's State Enterprises Minister has outlined plans to reduce flight cancellations and replace Air Niugini's fleet of aged aircraft as the country struggles with frustrating flight delays.
PNG govt plans to 'build new airline'
Papua New Guinea's State Enterprises Minister has outlined plans to reduce flight cancellations and replace Air Niugini's fleet of aged aircraft as the country struggles with frustrating flight delays.
Papua New Guinea's State Enterprises Minister has outlined plans to reduce flight cancellations and replace Air Niugini's fleet of aged aircraft as the country struggles with frustrating flight delays.
William Duma has told Parliament Air Niugini has bought four used Dash 8 aircraft, which will arrive at the end of this month and in July.
The purchase will be funded from Air Niugini's internal cash flow, but this means travellers could be seeing an increase in the cost of travel.
In addition, the PNG Cabinet has authorised Air Niugini to source 11 new jets to replace the Fokker 70s and 100s.
Those aircraft will begin servicing routes from 2024 to 2026.
Some of the jets will be purchased outright, while the rest will be leased until the airline is able to buy them.
In 2014, the airline had planned to purchase four Boeing 737 Max aircraft, but after safety concerns led to the grounding of the model, Air Niugini cancelled its order.
Now, the airline plans to bring in two Boeing 787 Dreamliners in March and April 2026.
"The plan is to replace the entire fleet eventually. What we are doing is to build a new airline," Duma said.
The purchase of new planes is expected to reduce fuel costs by 25 percent, which is currently a major expense for the airline.
Air Niugini also plans to build an additional aircraft hangar, which will allow the airline to service its own planes in-country.
The purchase will be funded from Air Niugini's internal cash flow, but this means travellers could be seeing an increase in the cost of travel.
In addition, the PNG Cabinet has authorised Air Niugini to source 11 new jets to replace the Fokker 70s and 100s.
Those aircraft will begin servicing routes from 2024 to 2026.
Some of the jets will be purchased outright, while the rest will be leased until the airline is able to buy them.
In 2014, the airline had planned to purchase four Boeing 737 Max aircraft, but after safety concerns led to the grounding of the model, Air Niugini cancelled its order.
Now, the airline plans to bring in two Boeing 787 Dreamliners in March and April 2026.
"The plan is to replace the entire fleet eventually. What we are doing is to build a new airline," Duma said.
The purchase of new planes is expected to reduce fuel costs by 25 percent, which is currently a major expense for the airline.
Air Niugini also plans to build an additional aircraft hangar, which will allow the airline to service its own planes in-country.
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Totally incorrect if the comparison is with Australian airlines, even with the exchange rate and the lack of super.
Unlike most airlines in Australia, PX do respect experience on the types they operate and pay accordingly. Even better for pilots who have substantial PNG experience.
Unlike most airlines in Australia, PX do respect experience on the types they operate and pay accordingly. Even better for pilots who have substantial PNG experience.
Also, it's important to recognize that the exchange rate plays a significant role in determining the actual value of the earnings for pilots being paid in Kina. While the salaries offered by PX might appear competitive in comparison to Australian airlines on paper, once the exchange rate is factored in, the real value of these earnings diminishes considerably.
Secondly, the PNG tax rate further exacerbates the earnings disparity between PX and Australian airlines. Moreover, it is crucial to consider the impact of forced contracts or changes in working conditions on pilot earnings. Such circumstances have led to unfavorable alterations in remuneration packages, resulting in even lower earnings for PX pilots. This highlights the importance of not just comparing base salaries but also considering the broader context of employment benefits and conditions working in a third world country.
Thirdly, the lack of company-provided healthcare or insurance, as well as limited access to quality healthcare providers in PNG, can lead to a challenging experience if faced with minor health issues like an ingrown toenail. In such situations, first-world services may not be readily available.
Additionally, the staff travel system is outdated and inefficient, much like the pain caused by an ingrown toenail. The process often requires time-consuming paperwork and obtaining signatures from various middle managers who may or may not be accessible during office hours. This bureaucratic approach can lead to frustration and delays to your Disneyland trip.
When it comes to comparing apples and apples, comparing any jet captain’s remuneration at PX to the outside world, you may be disheartened.
Therefore, I fail to see how PX respects the experience of PNG pilots in offering seemingly competitive pay rates, the reality is more nuanced and thus I tend to agree with Chop Chop’s assessment.
Last edited by TBL Warrior; 12th Jun 2023 at 12:25.
PX paid no different for a seasoned PNG, or Type experience applicant. Salaries started at the same point regardless if you were an APNG Capt or an Icelandic FO.
Also, it's important to recognize that the exchange rate plays a significant role in determining the actual value of the earnings for pilots being paid in Kina. While the salaries offered by PX might appear competitive in comparison to Australian airlines on paper, once the exchange rate is factored in, the real value of these earnings diminishes considerably.
Secondly, the PNG tax rate further exacerbates the earnings disparity between PX and Australian airlines. Moreover, it is crucial to consider the impact of forced contracts or changes in working conditions on pilot earnings. Such circumstances have led to unfavorable alterations in remuneration packages, resulting in even lower earnings for PX pilots. This highlights the importance of not just comparing base salaries but also considering the broader context of employment benefits and conditions working in a third world country.
Thirdly, the lack of company-provided healthcare or insurance, as well as limited access to quality healthcare providers in PNG, can lead to a challenging experience if faced with minor health issues like an ingrown toenail. In such situations, first-world services may not be readily available.
Additionally, the staff travel system is outdated and inefficient, much like the pain caused by an ingrown toenail. The process often requires time-consuming paperwork and obtaining signatures from various middle managers who may or may not be accessible during office hours. This bureaucratic approach can lead to frustration and delays to your Disneyland trip.
When it comes to comparing apples and apples, comparing any jet captain’s remuneration at PX to the outside world, you may be disheartened.
Therefore, I fail to see how PX respects the experience of PNG pilots in offering seemingly competitive pay rates, the reality is more nuanced and thus I tend to agree with Chop Chop’s assessment.
Also, it's important to recognize that the exchange rate plays a significant role in determining the actual value of the earnings for pilots being paid in Kina. While the salaries offered by PX might appear competitive in comparison to Australian airlines on paper, once the exchange rate is factored in, the real value of these earnings diminishes considerably.
Secondly, the PNG tax rate further exacerbates the earnings disparity between PX and Australian airlines. Moreover, it is crucial to consider the impact of forced contracts or changes in working conditions on pilot earnings. Such circumstances have led to unfavorable alterations in remuneration packages, resulting in even lower earnings for PX pilots. This highlights the importance of not just comparing base salaries but also considering the broader context of employment benefits and conditions working in a third world country.
Thirdly, the lack of company-provided healthcare or insurance, as well as limited access to quality healthcare providers in PNG, can lead to a challenging experience if faced with minor health issues like an ingrown toenail. In such situations, first-world services may not be readily available.
Additionally, the staff travel system is outdated and inefficient, much like the pain caused by an ingrown toenail. The process often requires time-consuming paperwork and obtaining signatures from various middle managers who may or may not be accessible during office hours. This bureaucratic approach can lead to frustration and delays to your Disneyland trip.
When it comes to comparing apples and apples, comparing any jet captain’s remuneration at PX to the outside world, you may be disheartened.
Therefore, I fail to see how PX respects the experience of PNG pilots in offering seemingly competitive pay rates, the reality is more nuanced and thus I tend to agree with Chop Chop’s assessment.
Great rant!
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The PNG Government has signed with Airbus for:
11 of the A220 model aircraft as a replacement for the Fokker fleet. This is in addition to the two Boeing Dreamliners.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1392...ibextid=K8Wfd2
K2.5bil for new aircraft – The National
11 of the A220 model aircraft as a replacement for the Fokker fleet. This is in addition to the two Boeing Dreamliners.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1392...ibextid=K8Wfd2
K2.5bil for new aircraft – The National
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There was a mass resignation of expat pilots back in 2015 due to the airline imposing a pay cut. This thread from back then gives an insight into what went on.
Air Niugini T & C's
The B787 and A220 are fairly sophisticated types and require a decent amount of support to keep them in the air. The B787 has presented a few challenges to major first world airlines and could prove difficult for a third world country like PNG to operate. The engineering back up required is far greater than the simple and robust Fokkers needed. There will probably be a few well paid expat engineer jobs going when the aircraft arrive.
Air Niugini T & C's
The B787 and A220 are fairly sophisticated types and require a decent amount of support to keep them in the air. The B787 has presented a few challenges to major first world airlines and could prove difficult for a third world country like PNG to operate. The engineering back up required is far greater than the simple and robust Fokkers needed. There will probably be a few well paid expat engineer jobs going when the aircraft arrive.
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There was a mass resignation of expat pilots back in 2015 due to the airline imposing a pay cut. This thread from back then gives an insight into what went on.
Air Niugini T & C's
The B787 and A220 are fairly sophisticated types and require a decent amount of support to keep them in the air. The B787 has presented a few challenges to major first world airlines and could prove difficult for a third world country like PNG to operate. The engineering back up required is far greater than the simple and robust Fokkers needed. There will probably be a few well paid expat engineer jobs going when the aircraft arrive.
Air Niugini T & C's
The B787 and A220 are fairly sophisticated types and require a decent amount of support to keep them in the air. The B787 has presented a few challenges to major first world airlines and could prove difficult for a third world country like PNG to operate. The engineering back up required is far greater than the simple and robust Fokkers needed. There will probably be a few well paid expat engineer jobs going when the aircraft arrive.
Even simple tasks like data uploading or downloading would be a significant challenge. I recall how they had to use the Fokker’s pneumatic source to start another bugerup F100 because they lacked air starters, which are common pieces of equipment.
Good to see PX making investments into their fleet, haven’t seen such progress since the 707 😂
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The National newspaper, Thu 2nd Nov:
Boost for Air Niugini – The National
PNG Post Courier, Thu 2nd Nov,
Air Niugini purchase 6 new planes for refleet program - Post Courier
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Boost for Air Niugini – The National
PNG Post Courier, Thu 2nd Nov,
Air Niugini purchase 6 new planes for refleet program - Post Courier
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