Another day, another QF incident
As for the 'smoke in cabin' FFS, seen it so many times it's tedious. At Ansett, at TAA/Australian and at Qantas. Odds on it's a small piece of food from a previous sector that has spilled out over the tray and onto the oven interior. Of course it needs to be checked out, but is likely something minor like that. Next flight, it's burned a little bit in the oven causing a smoke smell and a burning smell.
FFS people, sometimes these things come in 3-4 incidents (if you can even call them that).
I remember well, a week in the 'old' days when a 747 left Melbourne after a 4 hour delay, passengers p-ssed off then a Flight Attendant opened a bottle of champagne and the metal foil hit him in the eyeball. Diversion to SYD. The same week we had a 767 turn back due to an oil pressure warning (they were new at the time) and two other delays, one a 7 hour delay that required an engine to be practically pulled apart to replace a 20c o-ring. On that occasion I believe, they didn't have a part so they went to Clarke Rubber in Niddrie and bought a bunch of rings. Sent the data sheet to P&W who approved its use. Around the same week I believe, a canoe fairing cracked and 'fell off' a 747 landing in SFO.
No one was screaming that Qantas was unsafe or that it was the end of the world. In those days the media had more than clicks and aircraft delays to worry about.
So, let's have someone go back and grill John Menadue about what he was going to do about it back then.
Oh 43Inches, yet another anti-WF rant, what a surprise.
You have a tiny dataset based on rumours and hearsay. You have no idea how many incidents are being reported by Qantas or any other airline in this country. You have no insight into why the ATSB are investigating one occurrence and not another. You are cobbling together a few stories you’ve heard into a vast corrupt ATSB/Qantas conspiracy with no proof whatsoever.
Why aren’t you clamouring for VA and Rex to publicly publish all their reportable incidents? I thought you wanted transparency? Only from Qantas eh?
As for “claiming the mantle of safest operator”, just because some stupid website puts them on top of an arbitrary list does not make it a claim by Qantas.
And on the 737 (current focus of media attention) they are certainly not “requiring all crew and aircraft to do more than they can handle”. Capacity is still below pre-COVID hours and pilot divisors are well down, possibly too low.
Most professional pilots understand the issues currently in the news occur nearly every day of the year. In a large fleet it is statistically inevitable and just part of running an airline. Every few years an event thrusts an occurrence into the media spotlight and for the following week(s) every minor event gets heightened attention. Most pilots see the folly of this sensationalist reporting, but evidently some jump on this bandwagon to push their own gripes.
You have a tiny dataset based on rumours and hearsay. You have no idea how many incidents are being reported by Qantas or any other airline in this country. You have no insight into why the ATSB are investigating one occurrence and not another. You are cobbling together a few stories you’ve heard into a vast corrupt ATSB/Qantas conspiracy with no proof whatsoever.
Why aren’t you clamouring for VA and Rex to publicly publish all their reportable incidents? I thought you wanted transparency? Only from Qantas eh?
As for “claiming the mantle of safest operator”, just because some stupid website puts them on top of an arbitrary list does not make it a claim by Qantas.
And on the 737 (current focus of media attention) they are certainly not “requiring all crew and aircraft to do more than they can handle”. Capacity is still below pre-COVID hours and pilot divisors are well down, possibly too low.
Most professional pilots understand the issues currently in the news occur nearly every day of the year. In a large fleet it is statistically inevitable and just part of running an airline. Every few years an event thrusts an occurrence into the media spotlight and for the following week(s) every minor event gets heightened attention. Most pilots see the folly of this sensationalist reporting, but evidently some jump on this bandwagon to push their own gripes.
One of the patterns is randomly generated. Which one?
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Qantas issues, how many is usual?
Qantas in the news a few times for similar issues this last week. Considering fleet size and number of flights per week, are these things just regular occurrences in general but now become news, or is it more than usual and a concern to those who know?
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I can see a nude woman in the left one, but maybe that's something for Mr Freud to worry about...
The left one is the randomly generated pattern. Note that, just because the plotted events are sometimes 'clumped' and sometimes 'sparse', it does not follow that the events are not random. What we need to hope is that there is sufficient collective expertise in the airlines, type certifying NAAs, ATSB and CASA to spot when the random events becomes non-random.
The left one is the randomly generated pattern. Note that, just because the plotted events are sometimes 'clumped' and sometimes 'sparse', it does not follow that the events are not random. What we need to hope is that there is sufficient collective expertise in the airlines, type certifying NAAs, ATSB and CASA to spot when the random events becomes non-random.
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I can see a nude woman in the left one,
And I can see a Shamrock in the right one.
Here here hear hear heer heer
God/Allah you Australian pylots are pathetic, nit pickers. What’s with the degenerative spiral into grammah and spellin’ in every forum. Some of us are here to learn something.
There was smoke. I won’t go into it but poopy looked to be heading north to the fan (ceiling, not oven fan), do what you’re paid to do, find some bitumen. cah-PEESH. Smile and wave. Enjoy the show.
God/Allah you Australian pylots are pathetic, nit pickers. What’s with the degenerative spiral into grammah and spellin’ in every forum. Some of us are here to learn something.
There was smoke. I won’t go into it but poopy looked to be heading north to the fan (ceiling, not oven fan), do what you’re paid to do, find some bitumen. cah-PEESH. Smile and wave. Enjoy the show.
A man goes to a Psychologist and says, "Doc I got a real problem, I can't stop thinking about sex."The Psychologist says, "Well let's see what we can find out", and pulls out his ink blots. "What is this a picture of?" he asks.
The man turns the picture upside down then turns it around and states, "That's a man and a woman on a bed making love."
The Psychologist says, "very interesting," and shows the next picture. "And what is this a picture of?"
The man looks and turns it in different directions and says, "That's a man and a woman on a bed making love."
The Psychologists tries again with the third ink blot, and asks the same question, "What is this a picture of?"
The patient again turns it in all directions and replies, "That's a man and a woman on a bed making love."
The Psychologist states, "Well, yes, you do seem to be obsessed with sex."
"Me!?" demands the patient. "You're the one who keeps showing me the dirty pictures!"
FWIW I can trace the blue path from the left to the right side of the picture.
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QF887 (A330-200), VH-EBA, was on its way to PER earlier today from ADL....turned around and flew back to ADL.
No doubt the media will be all over it. Not sure what the issue was, could of been a medical issue for all we know. Anyway best to be safe and turn around if the crew choose that path.
Cheers.
No doubt the media will be all over it. Not sure what the issue was, could of been a medical issue for all we know. Anyway best to be safe and turn around if the crew choose that path.
Cheers.
Calm down children,
Even Steve Purvinas from the ALAEA, who we all know isn’t shy about speaking his mind, has said the current media reporting is overblown:
Nothing ‘too out of the ordinary’ in Qantas turnbacks
Even Steve Purvinas from the ALAEA, who we all know isn’t shy about speaking his mind, has said the current media reporting is overblown:
Nothing ‘too out of the ordinary’ in Qantas turnbacks