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Old 19th Mar 2023, 07:17
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Strangely, the decision date has been moved from tomorrow to Thursday.
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Old 19th Mar 2023, 21:35
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Strangely, the decision date has been moved from tomorrow to Thursday.
wtf? Why do they keep delaying it? They've had more than enough time to collate responses.
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Old 19th Mar 2023, 21:56
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wtf? Why do they keep delaying it? They've had more than enough time to collate responses.
Maybe the Commission just had their Chairman's Lounges cancelled and they need a few days to negotiate it back
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Old 20th Mar 2023, 02:33
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20/03/2023 Former provisional date for announcement of findings (23 March 2023) delayed to allow the ACCC to obtain further information from the parties.
20/04/2023 Proposed date for announcement of ACCC’s decision.

https://www.accc.gov.au/public-regis...iance-airlines
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Old 20th Mar 2023, 02:54
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Originally Posted by neville_nobody
You'll never ever be getting that on an Australian contract.
...and that is why Australian pilots should stop complaining about their conditions, frankly.
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Old 20th Mar 2023, 08:05
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Originally Posted by Sector3
20/03/2023 Former provisional date for announcement of findings (23 March 2023) delayed to allow the ACCC to obtain further information from the parties.
20/04/2023 Proposed date for announcement of ACCCís decision.

https://www.accc.gov.au/public-regis...iance-airlines
20th April now. My $ is on another delay 7 days out from this date too. Something is fishy about all of this!
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Old 20th Mar 2023, 22:54
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Maybe the ACCC have asked Qantas legal to draft what the report should say to sound legit.
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Old 21st Mar 2023, 02:25
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Originally Posted by Slippery_Pete
Maybe the ACCC have asked Qantas legal to draft what the report should say to sound legit.
Absolutely,as everybody knows they are never wrong & the deal is in the best interests of competition & lower airfares🙊
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Old 28th Mar 2023, 10:18
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I heard a rumour that Alliance pilots with QF start dates have been told they are now being treated as Ďinternal transfersí delaying their proposed start dates. Any truth to that?
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Old 28th Mar 2023, 11:29
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Originally Posted by Johnny_56
I heard a rumour that Alliance pilots with QF start dates have been told they are now being treated as Ďinternal transfersí delaying their proposed start dates. Any truth to that?
lol. Thatís some grade A trolling.
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Old 28th Mar 2023, 12:35
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Originally Posted by Johnny_56
I heard a rumour that Alliance pilots with QF start dates have been told they are now being treated as Ďinternal transfersí delaying their proposed start dates. Any truth to that?
Apparently Qantas Pilots on the Alliance hold have been told the same thing.
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Old 28th Mar 2023, 12:54
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Originally Posted by Fonz121
lol. Thatís some grade A trolling.
They are however being held unusually long and people who interviewed after them have gotten start dates months ago.
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Old 28th Mar 2023, 21:04
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Anti-poaching arrangements appear to be illegal with a cursory read of the ACCC website. These rumours if true, would
bring the House of Cards down.

https://www.accc.gov.au/business/competition



Iíve heard Alliance is again haemorrhaging pilots despite non-financial perks designed to retain them. With whatís at stake, youíd think it prudent to let a few go to QF?
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Old 28th Mar 2023, 21:09
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Apparently Qantas Pilots on the Alliance hold have been told the same thing.

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Old 29th Mar 2023, 12:02
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Letís look at US rates for E190

See attached. The land of opportunity, if you want a yearly figure multiply the hr rate by 1000 (very rough but good place to start) amount is also $USD


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Old 29th Mar 2023, 12:05
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Then multiply that number by 1.5 to covert to the Aus Peso.
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Old 29th Mar 2023, 23:44
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Some facts are important.

Min hours are 70 per month (CA = $14350 Gross minus 4% for super as well) (FO $7350 and same same)
Yearly (840 hours) CA = $172K and FO = $88K

Yes I realise thats USD and having spent significant time in the US your buying power is greater than the same $$ in Oztralia. On pure numbers Captain $$ similar to Alliance Ejet drivers and FO Breeze will never reach the same dollar figure as Alliance Ejet.

Theres still better options than Breeze in the US if you are that way inclined. If it the right fit to pack up and head to the US, nows your time while the place is going bonkers but choose wisely if you are never going to get a green card
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Old 30th Mar 2023, 02:42
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It surprises me that this post went so quietly, the last line is pretty damning isnít it? How could the ACCC honestly expect to approve this and say it was legitimate? Honest question.
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Old 30th Mar 2023, 05:12
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Originally Posted by gordonfvckingramsay
It surprises me that this post went so quietly, the last line is pretty damning isnít it? How could the ACCC honestly expect to approve this and say it was legitimate? Honest question.
Iím guessing itís legal and the general public (bafflingly) seems to refuse to get outraged at such obvious corruption. In fact even if they do, Qantas seems to have worked out how much outrage they can tolerate before it starts affecting sales (spoiler alert- itís a lot). The ACCC will justify it by pointing to their gift declaration policy. Iím in no way saying itís right but just speculating why it didnít get much of a reaction.

FWIW I used to work in public healthcare and we werenít allowed to accept so much as a branded pen or notepad from a medical company rep (free lunches were banned many years ago). That such a policy doesnít apply to the ACCC is, quite simply, moronic.
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