Qantas buys Alliance

[PoppaJo]

Strangely, the decision date has been moved from tomorrow to Thursday.

[HappyBandit]

Originally Posted by PoppaJo

Strangely, the decision date has been moved from tomorrow to Thursday.

wtf? Why do they keep delaying it? They've had more than enough time to collate responses.

[neville_nobody]

wtf? Why do they keep delaying it? They've had more than enough time to collate responses.

Maybe the Commission just had their Chairman's Lounges cancelled and they need a few days to negotiate it back

[Sector3]

20/03/2023 Former provisional date for announcement of findings (23 March 2023) delayed to allow the ACCC to obtain further information from the parties.
20/04/2023 Proposed date for announcement of ACCC’s decision.

https://www.accc.gov.au/public-regis...iance-airlines

[RealSatoshi]

Originally Posted by neville_nobody

You'll never ever be getting that on an Australian contract.

...and that is why Australian pilots should stop complaining about their conditions, frankly.

[HappyBandit]

Originally Posted by Sector3

20/03/2023 Former provisional date for announcement of findings (23 March 2023) delayed to allow the ACCC to obtain further information from the parties.
20/04/2023 Proposed date for announcement of ACCC’s decision.

https://www.accc.gov.au/public-regis...iance-airlines

20th April now. My $ is on another delay 7 days out from this date too. Something is fishy about all of this!

[Slippery_Pete]

Maybe the ACCC have asked Qantas legal to draft what the report should say to sound legit.

[blubak]

Originally Posted by Slippery_Pete

Maybe the ACCC have asked Qantas legal to draft what the report should say to sound legit.

Absolutely,as everybody knows they are never wrong & the deal is in the best interests of competition & lower airfares🙊

[What The]

[Johnny_56]

I heard a rumour that Alliance pilots with QF start dates have been told they are now being treated as ‘internal transfers’ delaying their proposed start dates. Any truth to that?

[Fonz121]

Originally Posted by Johnny_56

I heard a rumour that Alliance pilots with QF start dates have been told they are now being treated as ‘internal transfers’ delaying their proposed start dates. Any truth to that?

lol. That’s some grade A trolling.

[aussieflyboy]

Originally Posted by Johnny_56

I heard a rumour that Alliance pilots with QF start dates have been told they are now being treated as ‘internal transfers’ delaying their proposed start dates. Any truth to that?

Apparently Qantas Pilots on the Alliance hold have been told the same thing.

[soseg]

Originally Posted by Fonz121

lol. That’s some grade A trolling.

They are however being held unusually long and people who interviewed after them have gotten start dates months ago.

[Gnadenburg]

Anti-poaching arrangements appear to be illegal with a cursory read of the ACCC website. These rumours if true, would
bring the House of Cards down.

https://www.accc.gov.au/business/competition



I’ve heard Alliance is again haemorrhaging pilots despite non-financial perks designed to retain them. With what’s at stake, you’d think it prudent to let a few go to QF?

[ScepticalOptomist]

Originally Posted by aussieflyboy

Apparently Qantas Pilots on the Alliance hold have been told the same thing.

​​​​​​​That’s gold, Jerry, gold!!!

[DashTrash.]

Let’s look at US rates for E190

See attached. The land of opportunity, if you want a yearly figure multiply the hr rate by 1000 (very rough but good place to start) amount is also $USD

[Icarus2001]

Then multiply that number by 1.5 to covert to the Aus Peso.

[BO0M]

Some facts are important.

Min hours are 70 per month (CA = $14350 Gross minus 4% for super as well) (FO $7350 and same same)
Yearly (840 hours) CA = $172K and FO = $88K

Yes I realise thats USD and having spent significant time in the US your buying power is greater than the same $$ in Oztralia. On pure numbers Captain $$ similar to Alliance Ejet drivers and FO Breeze will never reach the same dollar figure as Alliance Ejet.

Theres still better options than Breeze in the US if you are that way inclined. If it the right fit to pack up and head to the US, nows your time while the place is going bonkers but choose wisely if you are never going to get a green card

[gordonfvckingramsay]

Originally Posted by What The

It surprises me that this post went so quietly, the last line is pretty damning isn’t it? How could the ACCC honestly expect to approve this and say it was legitimate? Honest question.

[walesregent]

Originally Posted by gordonfvckingramsay

It surprises me that this post went so quietly, the last line is pretty damning isn’t it? How could the ACCC honestly expect to approve this and say it was legitimate? Honest question.

I’m guessing it’s legal and the general public (bafflingly) seems to refuse to get outraged at such obvious corruption. In fact even if they do, Qantas seems to have worked out how much outrage they can tolerate before it starts affecting sales (spoiler alert- it’s a lot). The ACCC will justify it by pointing to their gift declaration policy. I’m in no way saying it’s right but just speculating why it didn’t get much of a reaction.

FWIW I used to work in public healthcare and we weren’t allowed to accept so much as a branded pen or notepad from a medical company rep (free lunches were banned many years ago). That such a policy doesn’t apply to the ACCC is, quite simply, moronic.