Kangaroos and First Nation Peoples Flags
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You forget that many on this forum have spent time in Aboriginal communities and have first hand experience of Aboriginal life. That might have something to do with the push back.
Second to that noone has died defending the Aboriginal Flag but plenty have died for the Australian one and what that stood for. Maybe a little reality check is required in that department.
Second to that noone has died defending the Aboriginal Flag but plenty have died for the Australian one and what that stood for. Maybe a little reality check is required in that department.
Someone missed the joke Nice riposte Mr. P
Qantas could have put the Aboriginal flag on their aircraft years ago if they wanted to, the recent ownership doesn't really change much. They just would have had to pay a licensing fee to the... wait... nevermind, I think I just answered my own question.
I am familiar with the communities. We have a propensity to judge other cultures from our own lived experiences. A little bit of compassion and empathy can go a long way.
Honestly what do you think the end game here is really?? Are people suggesting we need to install Aboriginal Law over our constitution? Is anyone, including full blooded Aboriginals going back to throwing spears and hunting Kangaroos living naked in the wild? Honestly what is the point of all this?
Take your pick of colonial powers, one of them would have ended up here. Better or worse than the Brits? History would be a pretty good guide on that. Suggest that things are far better for the colonisation than they ever would have been regardless of another colonial power or no 'invasion' at all.
The money spent on indigenous 'issues' is staggering for extremely poor outcomes, an inconvenient truth.
For every indigenous leader wanting more welfare, handouts, land rights etc there is an indigenous leader wanting an end to more welfare, handouts etc.
Things will never change until the level of violence within indigenous communities is acknowledged and addressed, another inconvenient truth for the clowns jumping on the invasion day bandwagon.
The money spent on indigenous 'issues' is staggering for extremely poor outcomes, an inconvenient truth.
For every indigenous leader wanting more welfare, handouts, land rights etc there is an indigenous leader wanting an end to more welfare, handouts etc.
Things will never change until the level of violence within indigenous communities is acknowledged and addressed, another inconvenient truth for the clowns jumping on the invasion day bandwagon.
The true intent of many "change the daters" is to remove any Australian Day Celebration - as they don't believe "we" are worthy of having a day to celebrate.
My goodness there are a lot of very stupid people on these forums. All the government has done is purchase the copyright to the flag and as such it is freely available for anyone to obtain one and display it. It does not mean that it has become the official flag of the country!!!! One day this country will have to come to terms with its past but for now put your racist attitudes away and just let First Nations people have this moment.
It actually is an official flag of the country, recognised by the flags act since 1995....
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The Aboriginal Flag was designed by Aboriginal artist Harold Thomas in 1971.
The rights to the flag were owned by non Aboriginal company WAM Clothing, who were the licensed owner of the image.
The Federal Government acquired the copyright and the flag is now available freely for all Austlians to use. But it is not our National Flag.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-...omas/100779922
The rights to the flag were owned by non Aboriginal company WAM Clothing, who were the licensed owner of the image.
The Federal Government acquired the copyright and the flag is now available freely for all Austlians to use. But it is not our National Flag.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-...omas/100779922
The RSA had two official languages. One side of SAA's aircraft carried English, the other carried Afrikaans. Apart from that, bi
both sides were identica were they not!
both sides were identica were they not!
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It appears there is a long way to go? There it is. You’re already there….obviously, and the rest of us who may disagree, have a long way to catch up to you. At least you can be heartened at some progress being made, perhaps we can all grow up to be just like you eh?
I bet you say “correct” when someone says something you agree with. As if it wasn’t the truth until you confirmed it was. Hail Mr Proach o arbiter of truth.
I doubt there has ever been a time where there are more insufferable useful idiots on the planet than there are now. The yawning chasm between their impression of their intellect and the actual is so wide that no amount of moral posturing or preening could hope to fill it.
Wanna know how we know this? The first comment that disagreed with you, you played the race card. Game over Karen.
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The Aboriginal Flag was designed by Aboriginal artist Harold Thomas in 1971.
The rights to the flag were owned by non Aboriginal company WAM Clothing, who were the licensed owner of the image.
The Federal Government acquired the copyright and the flag is now available freely for all Austlians to use. But it is not our National Flag.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-...omas/100779922
The rights to the flag were owned by non Aboriginal company WAM Clothing, who were the licensed owner of the image.
The Federal Government acquired the copyright and the flag is now available freely for all Austlians to use. But it is not our National Flag.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-...omas/100779922
It is very confusing when someone inserts the facts.
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I kinda already like the Blue Ensign, and the Red Ensign, and the lighter RAF Ensign, it even links us back to the language we speak (or should that be spoke).
But we already have an Australian flag...
Dunno why it uses the colours of the Brazilian soccer team though.
But we already have an Australian flag...
Dunno why it uses the colours of the Brazilian soccer team though.
I kinda already like the Blue Ensign, and the Red Ensign, and the lighter RAF Ensign, it even links us back to the language we speak (or should that be spoke).
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There's nothing saying additional flags can't be flown on airliners. The most prominent example is the EU flag, which adorns a lot of EU based carriers alongside their national flag. Some Caribbean carriers fly the Caribbean Community flag as well.
Australia's most prominent International Sporting event is the Australian Open, on right now. I can see at the presentation ceremonies they have the Australian Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Flags displayed alongside the Australian flag with equal prominence. So like it or not the Aboriginal and TSI flags are being put on display as equal national flags as symbols of the nation by a lot of private businesses, state or local governments, national sporting teams and private citizens. Tourists to the nation (when they were/will be here) see these two additional flags being used alongside the national flag in a lot of places.
The decision by any Australian airline to place either flag on one of their aircraft (or none at all) is their own decision as they are all private companies, and there's not much anyone who would be opposed to such a move could do to stop them.
Just to be brutally technical the Union Jack only represents the nations of England, Scotland and the whole of Ireland. Northern Ireland and Wales have no representation on that flag. They are the crosses of St George, a 3rd century Roman Emperor's guard, St Patrick, a 5th century Roman/Irish missionary and St Andrew, a 1st century apostle and fisherman in Judea. Absolutely none of them had anything whatsoever to do with the nation of Australia by the way.
Australia's most prominent International Sporting event is the Australian Open, on right now. I can see at the presentation ceremonies they have the Australian Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Flags displayed alongside the Australian flag with equal prominence. So like it or not the Aboriginal and TSI flags are being put on display as equal national flags as symbols of the nation by a lot of private businesses, state or local governments, national sporting teams and private citizens. Tourists to the nation (when they were/will be here) see these two additional flags being used alongside the national flag in a lot of places.
The decision by any Australian airline to place either flag on one of their aircraft (or none at all) is their own decision as they are all private companies, and there's not much anyone who would be opposed to such a move could do to stop them.
Just to be brutally technical the Union Jack only represents the nations of England, Scotland and the whole of Ireland. Northern Ireland and Wales have no representation on that flag. They are the crosses of St George, a 3rd century Roman Emperor's guard, St Patrick, a 5th century Roman/Irish missionary and St Andrew, a 1st century apostle and fisherman in Judea. Absolutely none of them had anything whatsoever to do with the nation of Australia by the way.
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