New 'Bonza' LCC launches middle 2022 with B737 MAX
There is no such thing as a straight forward part 121 operation in CASA 's eyes. Any new AOC application will be very long winded and cost $$$$ - that's after the key operational appointments have been approved by CASA and issued their instruments. If a start- up operation is only just mustering together their senior team I cannot see how their AOC will be in the final stages, maybe embryonic stages.
There is no such thing as a straight forward part 121 operation in CASA 's eyes. Any new AOC application will be very long winded and cost $$$$ - that's after the key operational appointments have been approved by CASA and issued their instruments. If a start- up operation is only just mustering together their senior team I cannot see how their AOC will be in the final stages, maybe embryonic stages.
Bonza might spend the festive break putting manuals and it’s case together. However it will take Canberra 6 months to ‘review’ them. I would gather a million questions would follow soon after.
It really depends how much patience and cash they have.....to wait. The bill to have a MAX sit idle for a month is in the region of $350,000.
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Yes, absolutely. Ideally, they'd have a HOFO, etc. in mind who would be 'directing' the building of the operations manuals anyway, so you'd expect them to be at interview stage for the CEO, HOFO and SM if they are that far down the track but if they're just advertising, well, that's a long way off being 'almost complete'.
I was just really saying that if it's a pretty straight-forward CASR Part 121 operation, 'most' of the documentation could be done in advance but it is a strange way to do it without at least one member of flight ops 'key personnel' tapped.
I was just really saying that if it's a pretty straight-forward CASR Part 121 operation, 'most' of the documentation could be done in advance but it is a strange way to do it without at least one member of flight ops 'key personnel' tapped.
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Just wondering but when was the last time a new OAC was attempted that wasn't associated with an existing operator?
Never an easy exercise with CASA at anytime, new operator with no association...?
Statements/perception/reality don't really add up.
Taking out the annual Canberra festive reduced workload period, they have about 100 days to its inaugural flight (going off it’s April claim).
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Friend just pondered the chances of the Tiger AOC being dusted off, tweaked and presented to CASA.
Whether could be done/how receptive CASA would be....??
He also wondered as both money sources are USA could Bonza be the "new" Jetstar for Virgin MK 2??
Whether could be done/how receptive CASA would be....??
He also wondered as both money sources are USA could Bonza be the "new" Jetstar for Virgin MK 2??
....and while I'm here, WTF happened to that other dumbass startup...Doug, or Brad or whatever?
Man, you'd have to have manure for your brain.
Man, you'd have to have manure for your brain.
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Leadership Roles Filled At Australian Startup Bonza
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Priceless!
So the entire management team so far is made up of ronin desperados who have been shown the door from such revered entities as Australia Post ("hey kid, wanna buy a watch"), Old Virgin Blue and Tigerair.
You'd think there was a pretty good reason why these bozos are currently unemployed and clutching at straws.
Marvellous, just 'king marvellous!
Still, it may be worth a laugh, but it does devalue our profession.
So the entire management team so far is made up of ronin desperados who have been shown the door from such revered entities as Australia Post ("hey kid, wanna buy a watch"), Old Virgin Blue and Tigerair.
You'd think there was a pretty good reason why these bozos are currently unemployed and clutching at straws.
Marvellous, just 'king marvellous!
Still, it may be worth a laugh, but it does devalue our profession.
After hearing a few interviews I still don't get it. New aircraft, low frequency, under served cities pairs etc. But if you look at all the airlines he references none of them did that. They were originally charter operators with old aircraft operating charter services to either holiday destinations or secondary airports. Bonza is none of this and there are no secondary airports in Australia. So I have no idea why he thinks it will work in Australia as he is not doing what all the airlines he references did. Second to this Australia doesn't have a "winter sun" market which is what alot of LCC in cold weather climates rely on. What is the leisure market in Australia out of school holidays? Australia doesn't have a Las Vegas or Orlando type destination either.
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After hearing a few interviews I still don't get it. New aircraft, low frequency, under served cities pairs etc. But if you look at all the airlines he references none of them did that. They were originally charter operators with old aircraft operating charter services to either holiday destinations or secondary airports. Bonza is none of this and there are no secondary airports in Australia. So I have no idea why he thinks it will work in Australia as he is not doing what all the airlines he references did. Second to this Australia doesn't have a "winter sun" market which is what alot of LCC in cold weather climates rely on. What is the leisure market in Australia out of school holidays? Australia doesn't have a Las Vegas or Orlando type destination either.
After hearing a few interviews I still don't get it. New aircraft, low frequency, under served cities pairs etc. But if you look at all the airlines he references none of them did that. They were originally charter operators with old aircraft operating charter services to either holiday destinations or secondary airports. Bonza is none of this and there are no secondary airports in Australia. So I have no idea why he thinks it will work in Australia as he is not doing what all the airlines he references did. Second to this Australia doesn't have a "winter sun" market which is what alot of LCC in cold weather climates rely on. What is the leisure market in Australia out of school holidays? Australia doesn't have a Las Vegas or Orlando type destination either.
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Avalon
Gold Coast
Toowoomba
Western Sydney (eventually)
Thats a few places I reckon they’d be looking at for bases.
Just a few routes that would show promise 2-3 times a week that are possible with bases like that:
Avalon
- Gold Coast
- Ballina
- Newcastle
- Proserpine
- Hervey Bay
- NZ?
Toowoomba
- Newcastle
- Cairns
- Darwin
- Melbourne
- Adelaide
Gold Coast
- Wagga Wagga
- Albury
- Proserpine
- Cairns
- Townsville
- Darwin
- Canberra
- Hobart
- NZ?
Adelaide
- Newcastle
- Proserpine
- Ballina
- Hervey Bay
Gold Coast
Toowoomba
Western Sydney (eventually)
Thats a few places I reckon they’d be looking at for bases.
Just a few routes that would show promise 2-3 times a week that are possible with bases like that:
Avalon
- Gold Coast
- Ballina
- Newcastle
- Proserpine
- Hervey Bay
- NZ?
Toowoomba
- Newcastle
- Cairns
- Darwin
- Melbourne
- Adelaide
Gold Coast
- Wagga Wagga
- Albury
- Proserpine
- Cairns
- Townsville
- Darwin
- Canberra
- Hobart
- NZ?
Adelaide
- Newcastle
- Proserpine
- Ballina
- Hervey Bay
