Qantas to lay out roadmap for restart of international flights

[SHVC]

Originally Posted by Telfer86

Not how it works

The "people of NSW" do not get to decide who comes & goes from OS to NSW

That is decided by the Fed Govt who are elected by the "people of Australia"

The Govt of NSW has zero authority with OS arrivals

The people of Australia are very unimpressed with Gladys & her Govt & the rapid Covid spread throughout NSW
& they simply want Gladys to focus on practical & simple measures that will reduce covid cases, instead we get nonsense
about outdoor picnics, she wants the hairdressers re-opened & now giving advice on international arrivals

Arrogant statements that they have it all worked out , the rest of Australia are just plebs , Sydney is "Australias only global city" we are superior yada ya

People outside of NSW simply want the Govt of NSW to recover from the train wreck they have created & stop patronising the rest of Australia

I don't think Australians would be in any way comfortable with allowing OS travel to UK/North American with the current data & those
outside NSW have an equal voice(vote)

Just like the ppl of NSW are unimpressed with how other states are handling the situation, actually lack of handling. Other states are so $hit scared because they have spent the las 19 months doing nothing to prepare.

[Telfer86]

Would have thought on any measure every where in Aust (except Vict) has done a pretty incredible job
Anywhere else in the world where you could live as they have in Qld ,WA, SA , etc since Covid ? (yes Qld gal has been painful & at times a twit)
We saw how well arrogance & hubris from the Vict Govt worked last year , this year we are seeing it from NSW Govt
Gladys failed to understand how when you have you a Nth beaches cluster on a particular peninsula of land , well you
can do the flashy nuanced stuff , because the land is mainly surrounded by water
Weren't all the Profs virtually begging her daily in the SMH/Aussie etc to act - but Gladys knew better , she has the superior intellect & insight
The NSW situation is a concern , could well grow into 1000s every day very shortly, with associated significant fatalities
No chance of travel bubbles with NZ & Pacific islands for a long time now. Quite likely we developed Asian nations will now
look at us with much more skepticism regarding travel bubbles - would Sing & Honky touch us now ?
In the prisons , in the indigineous community - way to go Gladys - you showed everyone , you show everyone how to shake it NSW style

[morno]

Originally Posted by Telfer86

Would have thought on any measure every where in Aust (except Vict) has done a pretty incredible job
Anywhere else in the world where you could live as they have in Qld ,WA, SA , etc since Covid ? (yes Qld gal has been painful & at times a twit)
We saw how well arrogance & hubris from the Vict Govt worked last year , this year we are seeing it from NSW Govt
Gladys failed to understand how when you have you a Nth beaches cluster on a particular peninsula of land , well you
can do the flashy nuanced stuff , because the land is mainly surrounded by water
Weren't all the Profs virtually begging her daily in the SMH/Aussie etc to act - but Gladys knew better , she has the superior intellect & insight
The NSW situation is a concern , could well grow into 1000s every day very shortly, with associated significant fatalities
No chance of travel bubbles with NZ & Pacific islands for a long time now. Quite likely we developed Asian nations will now
look at us with much more skepticism regarding travel bubbles - would Sing & Honky touch us now ?
In the prisons , in the indigineous community - way to go Gladys - you showed everyone , you show everyone how to shake it NSW style

Once 70% of the eligible population is vaccinated, who really gives a f*ck what the case numbers are? I’m sure those other countries won’t care either if they have their vaccination rates high enough.

For those who are targeting zero covid, how much longer do you think it should keep going like that? How many years do you want to continue to be locked down and locked in?

[SHVC]

Case numbers are pointless vaccinations number reporting is what is important. If QLD wants zero before opening it will never happen but Anna will have to sell that to her ppl when they see NSW and possibly Vic traveling. WA reasons are very clear for zero covid. McGowen has let his citizens down. McGowen has not done a single productive thing to improve the states shambolic health system. 6000 ramp hrs for Ambulances for August so far, elective surgeries being binned, WA can’t handle the common flu it seems.

[DirectAnywhere]

Given there’s virtually zero flu around atm anyway it seems they can’t even handle an even better than ‘best case’ winter scenario.



From ABC News website 30/8/21

[KRviator]

Originally Posted by DirectAnywhere

Given there’s virtually zero flu around atm anyway it seems they can’t even handle an even better than ‘best case’ winter scenario.

From ABC News website 30/8/21

And you have the following from the Australian:

Covid-free but system at breaking point
WA will postpone about half of its elective surgeries from Wednesday despite its Covid-free status, amid fresh warnings the state’s health system would be overwhelmed *almost immediately in the event of a large-scale outbreak. Source

Guess there's the answer as to why McGowan has kept the border shut...It's not about Covid, it's about the health system he's overseen being unable to cope with standard needs, yet alone anything bigger and he's $hit scared of it collapsing if it does get in to WA...

I wonder if that makes the WA CHO guilty of Perjury, given he testified under oath in the Palmer trial the WA Health system is capable of managing a Covid Case load of 5,000 active cases with 500 of those in ICU? If they can't handle base-load elective surgeries, how can his assertion of being able to handle 5,000 Covid cases hold water? I mean, NSW has an active caseload of 16, 866 today and while I've no doubt it's straining the health system in the affected areas, I haven't seen any reports of NSW having to cancel elective surgeries....

[engine out]

This maybe a naive question however. The skies are controlled by Airservices which is a federally run organisation. The airports are privately owned but on federal land (hence federal police)? The customs and immigration staff are federal employees. So realistically the States have no controls on who arrives or is let into the country. I guess they could then arrest everybody leaving the airport?

[dr dre]

Originally Posted by KRviator

I haven't seen any reports of NSW having to cancel elective surgeries....

Did you even bother to look?

Non-urgent elective surgery suspended in Greater Sydney - NSW Health - 30 July 2021

[Chad Gates]

That's because of lockdown, and in anticipation of covid cases Dre, not because it can't cope. But you knew that.

[KRviator]

Originally Posted by dr dre

Did you even bother to look?

Non-urgent elective surgery suspended in Greater Sydney - NSW Health - 30 July 2021

Yes I did, and as C G mentions above, that is to ensure resources remain available for the system to cope with a Covid outbreak, not because they cannot cope without Covid! That's the point. The WA Health system cannot cope with base load elective surgeries without a Covid response and they still need to cancel them. That's not the case in NSW.

Try again.

[unobtanium]

Qantas the Sydney airline again, international flights from sydney start mid dec, first flights out of brissy and melb mid march 2022.

[Keg]

Originally Posted by unobtanium

Qantas the Sydney airline again, international flights from sydney start mid dec, first flights out of brissy and melb mid march 2022.

BNE- LAX 22 Dec 2021
BNE- SIN 22 Dec 2021

MEL- LAX 20 Dec 21
MEL- SIN 20 Dec 21

[morno]

Originally Posted by unobtanium

Qantas the Sydney airline again, international flights from sydney start mid dec, first flights out of brissy and melb mid march 2022.

That's probably because they’re likely to be the most open government to doing so dopey

[Xeptu]

Originally Posted by unobtanium

Qantas the Sydney airline again, international flights from sydney start mid dec, first flights out of brissy and melb mid march 2022.

I think we should take bets.
My money is on NSW in its greatest crisis of all time by Nov and the State divided East by West.
Agriculture is one of our last remaining must have core industries and eastern NSW is willing to risk wiping out our entire nations agricultural industry so you can go on a christmas holiday.

[Potsie Weber]

Originally Posted by Keg

BNE- LAX 22 Dec 2021
BNE- SIN 22 Dec 2021

MEL- LAX 20 Dec 21
MEL- SIN 20 Dec 21

Won’t happen. At best by year end we will be back to arrival caps as per a few months back, perhaps with reduced quarantine or quarantine at home for fully vaccinated returnees.

Domestic borders will be the aim and there is no chance of international opening up until domestic stabilises.

[Keg]

Whether it happens or not was not my point. I was replying to unobtainium who claimed that MEL and BNE had been neglected in QF’s plans until ‘mid March 2022’ when it seems QF is planning to launch out of both those ports right from the get go.

At current rates NSW hits 80% vaxx’d in early October. We can have all high school kids done by early December. Flights departing Sydney from 20 December is even money in my book. It’ll be a political decision to launch or not though, not a health one.

[3Greens]

The issue will be though, who the hell wants to fly if you have to go into hotel quarantine on your return to Auz?
until the governor removes that barrier, you may as well keep the fleet on the ground.

[Keg]

Well that's pretty simple. If those rules still exist, QF won't be launching.

I don't see why we should be putting people into HQ after December though. If we're all vaccinated and their are Delta cases zinging around the country why would we bother?

[On eyre]

Originally Posted by Keg

Well that's pretty simple. If those rules still exist, QF won't be launching.

I don't see why we should be putting people into HQ after December though. If we're all vaccinated and their are Delta cases zinging around the country why would we bother?

Exactly - at worst it will be home quarantine until a negative test result. More than likely not even that.

[SHVC]

Can the feds open NSW for international travel whilst everyone else stays the covid zero course and stay in lockdown (Vic)?