Qantas to lay out roadmap for restart of international flights
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Originally Posted by Down and Welded
Anyone know which two a/c are to be retired?
Hopefully A will be one of them.
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A had $140 mill spent on it. Should be a good structure now. B has gone to Germany for refit. C is in Abu Dhabi (why?). D is under cover in LAX. E to L at Victorville. What are we to guess at?
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Originally Posted by Down and Welded
A had $140 mill spent on it. Should be a good structure now. B has gone to Germany for refit. C is in Abu Dhabi (why?). D is under cover in LAX. E to L at Victorville. What are we to guess at?
No idea which of the others will stay.
Originally Posted by ANCDU
Interesting use of words using DRW as an alternative or in conjunction with Perth. Maybe Qantas is concerned about WA keeping its borders closed longer than the rest of Australia. Darwin base… sign me up!!
Originally Posted by ANCDU
Interesting use of words using DRW as an alternative or in conjunction with Perth. Maybe Qantas is concerned about WA keeping its borders closed longer than the rest of Australia. Darwin base… sign me up!!
I'd say their use of "investigating" is more a tactic to put some pressure on the State government regarding borders, but also to seek assistance in their dispute with the Airport over fees and terminal use. In addition to the negotiations over the new expanded single use terminal that'll come online within the next decade.
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Really quite delusional & sad
UK & USA are "Covid Safe" according to QF , 130K & 650K deaths & rising every day
& Infection rates of 30,000 & 150,000 per day right now , USA vaccination rate in low 50s %
If that is Covid safe , I would not like to see covid dangerous
QF employees are being led around by nose with completely false hope for the 3rd time now
Surely oh surely you should have expected more than this
The rest of the country don't have to change their minds because Gladys & PM & QF state " this is how you do it all - we have the answer & you have to listen"
With the numbers above the other States won't touch this with a barge pole, we have been locking out other states for 5 cases
Are we really going to say "Gee wow because you are an Englishman/American we will let you into our country with open arms even though you have 50,000 daily cases"
Gladys , ScoMo etc told us it would all be fine
Golly gosh last nights 7:30 or something still said there were 38K Australians wanting to return home perhaps they should be the
priority before people jet off to feed the pigeons at Trafalgar Square
UK & USA are "Covid Safe" according to QF , 130K & 650K deaths & rising every day
& Infection rates of 30,000 & 150,000 per day right now , USA vaccination rate in low 50s %
If that is Covid safe , I would not like to see covid dangerous
QF employees are being led around by nose with completely false hope for the 3rd time now
Surely oh surely you should have expected more than this
The rest of the country don't have to change their minds because Gladys & PM & QF state " this is how you do it all - we have the answer & you have to listen"
With the numbers above the other States won't touch this with a barge pole, we have been locking out other states for 5 cases
Are we really going to say "Gee wow because you are an Englishman/American we will let you into our country with open arms even though you have 50,000 daily cases"
Gladys , ScoMo etc told us it would all be fine
Golly gosh last nights 7:30 or something still said there were 38K Australians wanting to return home perhaps they should be the
priority before people jet off to feed the pigeons at Trafalgar Square
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Originally Posted by Telfer86
Really quite delusional & sad
UK & USA are "Covid Safe" according to QF , 130K & 650K deaths & rising every day
& Infection rates of 30,000 & 150,000 per day right now , USA vaccination rate in low 50s %
If that is Covid safe , I would not like to see covid dangerous
QF employees are being led around by nose with completely false hope for the 3rd time now
Surely oh surely you should have expected more than this
The rest of the country don't have to change their minds because Gladys & PM & QF state " this is how you do it all - we have the answer & you have to listen"
With the numbers above the other States won't touch this with a barge pole
UK & USA are "Covid Safe" according to QF , 130K & 650K deaths & rising every day
& Infection rates of 30,000 & 150,000 per day right now , USA vaccination rate in low 50s %
If that is Covid safe , I would not like to see covid dangerous
QF employees are being led around by nose with completely false hope for the 3rd time now
Surely oh surely you should have expected more than this
The rest of the country don't have to change their minds because Gladys & PM & QF state " this is how you do it all - we have the answer & you have to listen"
With the numbers above the other States won't touch this with a barge pole
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Telfer I know something that’s delusional and sad and that’s your continual BS. Travel will be permitted for fully vaccinated people only so it doesn’t matter what countries QF fly to as long as the demand warrants it. Rapid antigen tests at the airport on arrival back into Oz will no doubt also be a requirement.
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USA vaccination rate in low 50s %
Yes low 50s at the moment.
You would expect by December, the rate to be at least 62% and perhaps towards 70%. (The rate set in the Doherty report)
About 62% have already had at least their 1st dose and about 10% are just waiting for their 2nd dose.
Uk is low 60's but also should be easily be 70s by then, as about 10% are also waiting for their 2nd dose now.
BTW the low 50s vaccination rate is for the whole population. The doherty report is based only for those over 16 years old, so a total vaccination rate of low 50s in the USA might actually be 60% for people over 16 years old. USA should get 70% (aged over 16) by December.
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Gee a Wally or two amongst this lot
Or maybe just disappointed
The QF leaders are paid good coin, & this plan is Baby talk, just schoolboy stuff
Glads , SM & AJ - the A team, I would have more faith in the three stooges
Or maybe just disappointed
The QF leaders are paid good coin, & this plan is Baby talk, just schoolboy stuff
Glads , SM & AJ - the A team, I would have more faith in the three stooges
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Originally Posted by Maggie Island
Possibly this must be the longest route Qantas have put the A330 on?
Originally Posted by chuboy
Possibly this must be the longest route Qantas have put the A330 on?
Telfer is actually right just emotionally invested, we in WA and SA are falling over ourselves to follow NSW lead "NOT" you really are dreaming if you think that we will be open this year. Whilst I admire the optimism, you're not doing yourself any favours by winding yourself up in anticipation. It really is gut wrenching soul crushing when it doesn't happen.
I like to think that I'm always optimistic, and I sincerely, truly, honestly hope I'm proven wrong - but international travel will not be happening in December 2021 as per Qantas' announcement today.
Originally Posted by Chris2303
It was used AKL-LAX about 10 years ago. Popular with the pax and high loadings
Well this is all a pipe dream really. He has the state premiers to deal with and more importantly the virus itself. The uk uses the traffic light system. Joyce has mentioned Phuket as a possible destination. Well the uk has just moved thailand to the red list countries meaning if you are there now you need to do two weeks quarantine on return. Just like that. Would YOU book a holiday overseas knowing that at then drop of a hat it could go red. And people need to book months in advance to work around work holiday schedules. And to secure flights and hotels. I imagine that we are going to have to use a similar system if not formally then behind the scenes. Thailand also forces anyone arriving into 14 day quarantine.
I hope it all works out but it isn’t going to be easy when the enemy is completely out of your control.
I hope it all works out but it isn’t going to be easy when the enemy is completely out of your control.
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Well this is all a pipe dream really. He has the state premiers to deal with and more importantly the virus itself. The uk uses the traffic light system. Joyce has mentioned Phuket as a possible destination. Well the uk has just moved thailand to the red list countries meaning if you are there now you need to do two weeks quarantine on return. Just like that. Would YOU book a holiday overseas knowing that at then drop of a hat it could go red. And people need to book months in advance to work around work holiday schedules. And to secure flights and hotels. I imagine that we are going to have to use a similar system if not formally then behind the scenes. Thailand also forces anyone arriving into 14 day quarantine.
I hope it all works out but it isn’t going to be easy when the enemy is completely out of your control.
I hope it all works out but it isn’t going to be easy when the enemy is completely out of your control.
I think the naysayers are missing the point. It doesn’t matter if the flights resume exactly as planned.
It’s about restarting the airline in PREPARATION for when they do. It’s not just a switch flicked to on. It takes time and resources, and the roadmap is just that - an acknowledgement that in order to be ready by date X, you need to start getting organised now. It’s a signal to the market that money will be spent in readiness. There is a potential massive upside for QF if they are ready when the gates open.
It will see training across the board and more importantly, pay in the pockets of the guys that have been stood down for way too long.
Good news fellas - allow yourself to feel hopeful.
Ignore the Xeptus and Telfers of the world - those types of people love bathing in misery, especially if it belongs to others.
It’s about restarting the airline in PREPARATION for when they do. It’s not just a switch flicked to on. It takes time and resources, and the roadmap is just that - an acknowledgement that in order to be ready by date X, you need to start getting organised now. It’s a signal to the market that money will be spent in readiness. There is a potential massive upside for QF if they are ready when the gates open.
It will see training across the board and more importantly, pay in the pockets of the guys that have been stood down for way too long.
Good news fellas - allow yourself to feel hopeful.
Ignore the Xeptus and Telfers of the world - those types of people love bathing in misery, especially if it belongs to others.
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Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist
I think the naysayers are missing the point. It doesn’t matter if the flights resume exactly as planned.
It’s about restarting the airline in PREPARATION for when they do. It’s not just a switch flicked to on. It takes time and resources, and the roadmap is just that - an acknowledgement that in order to be ready by date X, you need to start getting organised now. It’s a signal to the market that money will be spent in readiness. There is a potential massive upside for QF if they are ready when the gates open.
It will see training across the board and more importantly, pay in the pockets of the guys that have been stood down for way too long.
Good news fellas - allow yourself to feel hopeful.
Ignore the Xeptus and Telfers of the world - those types of people love bathing in misery, especially if it belongs to others.
It’s about restarting the airline in PREPARATION for when they do. It’s not just a switch flicked to on. It takes time and resources, and the roadmap is just that - an acknowledgement that in order to be ready by date X, you need to start getting organised now. It’s a signal to the market that money will be spent in readiness. There is a potential massive upside for QF if they are ready when the gates open.
It will see training across the board and more importantly, pay in the pockets of the guys that have been stood down for way too long.
Good news fellas - allow yourself to feel hopeful.
Ignore the Xeptus and Telfers of the world - those types of people love bathing in misery, especially if it belongs to others.
