The New rules interpretation thread.
I always marvel at the thought and quality control processes that result in stuff like this:
› your previous FDP was less than 8 hours
› your new FDP is less than 8 hours in duration
› after the new FDP you will have no more than 1 subsequent FDP that is also of less than 8 hours duration.
› your new FDP is less than 8 hours in duration
› after the new FDP you will have no more than 1 subsequent FDP that is also of less than 8 hours duration.
How does this square with the CX single pilot in the cruise thread in the other forum?
Let them sort it out, it's their job.
We adhere to our manual suite.
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IMNAL, however as I see it, it might be the company's job to get the manuals compliant, but the offence of strict liability in this case lies with solely the PIC - NOT the operator. Assuming you operate in the LHS, you're the one ponying up $8500 for the pee break.
If you're that convinced, then you need to take it up with your employer.
You could refuse sectors over 2 hours, and avoid drinking coffee.
Let's know how you go.
You could refuse sectors over 2 hours, and avoid drinking coffee.
Let's know how you go.
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In case it’s not obvious this thread is not about me, nor my employer nor my willingness to fly.
It’s about industry collating inconsistencies in the new rules.
I witnessed Mr Carmody say - several years ago - say that the rules were coming out warts and all. They’d been dragging on for too long.
Pilots should be aware of the warts (and there are more). And understand what strict liability means
It’s about industry collating inconsistencies in the new rules.
I witnessed Mr Carmody say - several years ago - say that the rules were coming out warts and all. They’d been dragging on for too long.
Pilots should be aware of the warts (and there are more). And understand what strict liability means
Last edited by compressor stall; 21st Jun 2021 at 22:24.
Ah....sorry, CS.
It wasn't that obvious to me.
Now I get it. You're miffed that CASA are inconsistent with their former rulings, and evolving separately to the rest of the world.
A Galapagos Island of Aviation, if you will.
I, however, think that ship of fools sailed decades ago.
It wasn't that obvious to me.
Now I get it. You're miffed that CASA are inconsistent with their former rulings, and evolving separately to the rest of the world.
A Galapagos Island of Aviation, if you will.
I, however, think that ship of fools sailed decades ago.
With regards to the new 48.1 requirements, I have heard from a reliable source that operators who haven’t elected to get on board will receive an unwanted notification if they haven’t got on board by the 30th!
Last edited by Duck Pilot; 22nd Jun 2021 at 21:16.
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Ah....sorry, CS.
It wasn't that obvious to me.
Now I get it. You're miffed that CASA are inconsistent with their former rulings, and evolving separately to the rest of the world.
A Galapagos Island of Aviation, if you will.
I, however, think that ship of fools sailed decades ago.
It wasn't that obvious to me.
Now I get it. You're miffed that CASA are inconsistent with their former rulings, and evolving separately to the rest of the world.
A Galapagos Island of Aviation, if you will.
I, however, think that ship of fools sailed decades ago.
The move to the new ruleset is an attempt by the regulator to further harmonise with ICAO and a deliberate move away from the oft quoted Galapagos effect. If you fly EDTO you'd have seen that come in in 2015, as well as other changes since (fuel in 2019) and the obvious forthcoming.
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LMMFAO. I love it, I needed that laugh FOXXSTER, legend.
Let’s hear some of the interpretations!
I haven’t heard too many yet, mostly because people haven’t quite figured them out yet.
Watching eyes glaze over when talking the WOCL, or the delayed reporting, or the acclimatisation, is fun. Actually that’s probably my own eyes. The rules aren’t easy to decipher and follow. Tough ask for the people who have to manage it and teach the rest of us.
But yes, I believe Duck is correct. No manual submitted to CASA by the end of this month means no flying for you in July.
I haven’t heard too many yet, mostly because people haven’t quite figured them out yet.
Watching eyes glaze over when talking the WOCL, or the delayed reporting, or the acclimatisation, is fun. Actually that’s probably my own eyes. The rules aren’t easy to decipher and follow. Tough ask for the people who have to manage it and teach the rest of us.
But yes, I believe Duck is correct. No manual submitted to CASA by the end of this month means no flying for you in July.
I’m sure every pilot will be able to fully comprehend it all, particularly with regards to changing between appendices during a single duty period. The 2 days of annual re-currency training, 28 day rosters and mandatory 6 days off within a rolling 28 day period are a few little land mines that some operators haven’t recognised yet.
Wash up is that most AOC holders will need to hire more pilots in order to remain compliant with the 48.1 regs.
Wash up is that most AOC holders will need to hire more pilots in order to remain compliant with the 48.1 regs.