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A vaccine for COVID may certainly never eventuate.
However, it's likely that a few therapeutics will be found that can save lives, allowing the world to return to how it was. There are many promising late-stage trials of stem cell therapies that reverse damage from COVID-associated acute respiratory distress syndrome (this is the killer). These are far more advanced than any vaccine candidates.
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However, it's likely that a few therapeutics will be found that can save lives, allowing the world to return to how it was. There are many promising late-stage trials of stem cell therapies that reverse damage from COVID-associated acute respiratory distress syndrome (this is the killer). These are far more advanced than any vaccine candidates.
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I await details with an open mind but until then I am skeptical. Antibody infusions seem to help but dont prevent hospital admission. Vaccines are highly likely to work given the wide range of methods in over 220 trials. We have vaccines with a known safe dose in P2 studies which do produce antibodies. That is close. The question is when.....
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the median age for a covid19 death in sweden is 86 years
i bet that is higher than the average life expectancy in australia.
in fact fewer people are dying in sweden right now than is the average over the same period over the last five years.
i bet that is higher than the average life expectancy in australia.
in fact fewer people are dying in sweden right now than is the average over the same period over the last five years.
One day the people down under will realise there’s no beating the virus. You can stay segregated from the outside world forever and cost yourselves millions of jobs or just let it rip like it has in Europe. It sounds like the most horrific option until you realise the number of those sadly deceased is no more than a bad flu year.
Here in the U.K. we have had 7 worse years in the past 30, naughty Sweden who didn’t really lockdown 24 worse years in the past 30. One day all this will be studied in lecture theatres under the title “the great over-reaction.”
Here in the U.K. we have had 7 worse years in the past 30, naughty Sweden who didn’t really lockdown 24 worse years in the past 30. One day all this will be studied in lecture theatres under the title “the great over-reaction.”
We’re going to learn to live with it - one way or another. Isolating from the rest of the world is a short term band aid at best.
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It doesn’t seem that unrealistic to keep our border closed for that time.
If none of the 150 Vaccine candidates work, then we’ll just have to cross that bridge when we come to it, but I’m optimistic (based on reports out of Oxford) that it will.
There is a new drug called Remdesivir still in the testing phase just been approved in Australia for use, although not a cure but showing signs of increasing recovery times in severe cases of COVID-19. I have only found info on a trial currently undertaken by a German company called CureVac that is testing a possible vaccine, their trial will last up to 15 months which started early June which looks promising but won’t be available until late 2121 if successful.
Return to normality Internationally solely relies on a Vaccine as country’s have worked hard to slow it down. I couldn’t see any country allowing US or Chinese tourist in otherwise.
Return to normality Internationally solely relies on a Vaccine as country’s have worked hard to slow it down. I couldn’t see any country allowing US or Chinese tourist in otherwise.
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One day the people down under will realise there’s no beating the virus. You can stay segregated from the outside world forever and cost yourselves millions of jobs or just let it rip like it has in Europe. It sounds like the most horrific option until you realise the number of those sadly deceased is no more than a bad flu year.
Here in the U.K. we have had 7 worse years in the past 30, naughty Sweden who didn’t really lockdown 24 worse years in the past 30. One day all this will be studied in lecture theatres under the title “the great over-reaction.”
Here in the U.K. we have had 7 worse years in the past 30, naughty Sweden who didn’t really lockdown 24 worse years in the past 30. One day all this will be studied in lecture theatres under the title “the great over-reaction.”
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Reported in The Australian today, from the newly appointed head of the WHO Coronavirus inquiry:
“I’m told from Geneva that the most optimistic scenario for a widely available vaccine would be at least two and a half years,” former New Zealand prime minister Helen Clark has told Nine Newspapers”
She he goes on to say that: “And even then we don’t know how efficacious it would be – it may not stop us getting it, it may simply mitigate the impact of getting it.”
Not that I’d have much faith in anything the WHO has said or done, regarding this monumental clusters$&* that China has kindly given us all! Did I say F$&* China too?! Should have!
“I’m told from Geneva that the most optimistic scenario for a widely available vaccine would be at least two and a half years,” former New Zealand prime minister Helen Clark has told Nine Newspapers”
She he goes on to say that: “And even then we don’t know how efficacious it would be – it may not stop us getting it, it may simply mitigate the impact of getting it.”
Not that I’d have much faith in anything the WHO has said or done, regarding this monumental clusters$&* that China has kindly given us all! Did I say F$&* China too?! Should have!
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Reported in The Australian today, from the newly appointed head of the WHO Coronavirus inquiry:
“I’m told from Geneva that the most optimistic scenario for a widely available vaccine would be at least two and a half years,” former New Zealand prime minister Helen Clark has told Nine Newspapers”
She he goes on to say that: “And even then we don’t know how efficacious it would be – it may not stop us getting it, it may simply mitigate the impact of getting it.”
Not that I’d have much faith in anything the WHO has said or done, regarding this monumental clusters$&* that China has kindly given us all! Did I say F$&* China too?! Should have!
“I’m told from Geneva that the most optimistic scenario for a widely available vaccine would be at least two and a half years,” former New Zealand prime minister Helen Clark has told Nine Newspapers”
She he goes on to say that: “And even then we don’t know how efficacious it would be – it may not stop us getting it, it may simply mitigate the impact of getting it.”
Not that I’d have much faith in anything the WHO has said or done, regarding this monumental clusters$&* that China has kindly given us all! Did I say F$&* China too?! Should have!
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But walking away from the WHO after this royal cluster **** up is the smartest thing he has done. They are just as guilty as China.
Just out of interest, to all the supporters of the just let it rip campaign, how do you think you'll go in a 8,000 ft cabin for a couple of hours as a recovered person.
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Just after this all started, I started a thread called ‘ Is the WHO fit for purpose?’. This was after they were refusing to call it a pandemic. Some people were laughing at me then. I would like to know now what most people think of the WHO?.
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Just out of interest, to all the supporters of the just let it rip campaign, how do you think you'll go in a 8,000 ft cabin for a couple of hours as a recovered person.
Of course anyone advocating an evidence based approach to 'living with' the virus and getting on with life is a 'let it ripper'
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