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QF pulls the plug on international flights to March 2021

Old 9th Jul 2020, 23:38
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QF pulls the plug on international flights to March 2021

Apart from New Zealand, all QFi flights have been yanked from the QF website through to March 28, only partners like EK, CX etc showing, actual QF flights show as 'N/A'.

https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...-to-march-2021
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 23:51
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It’s really a stab in the dark. Unless Alan has the inside word on when the Vaccine will be available, he really doesn’t have any more idea than you or I.
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Old 10th Jul 2020, 02:07
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Originally Posted by ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE View Post
It’s really a stab in the dark. Unless Alan has the inside word on when the Vaccine will be available, he really doesn’t have any more idea than you or I.
As pointed out in the article,

March 28 marks the cut-over to the Northern Summer 2021 airline schedule period as defined by the International Air Transport Association.
They've just picked a there-or-thereabouts point related to the scheduling process. It'll be as much to minimise churn on re-bookings and cancellations as anything else.
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Old 10th Jul 2020, 02:17
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Originally Posted by ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE
when the Vaccine will be available
And that vaccine still may not happen... What happens then with Oz?
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Yet another BNEA320 thread
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And that vaccine still may not happen... What happens then with Oz?
Nothing. We continue as we are, at least until some sort of reasonably effective treatment comes along that makes the virus less contagious or deadly would be my guess (if a vaccine cannot be found).
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And that vaccine still may not happen... What happens then with Oz?
around 150 vaccine candidates worldwide, with the Oxford Vaccine appearing to be the front runner, with a supply chain ready to produce billions of doses.

Still not guaranteed success but there is cause for optimism
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Old 10th Jul 2020, 03:03
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And that vaccine still may not happen... What happens then with Oz?
A vaccine for COVID may certainly never eventuate.

However, it's likely that a few therapeutics will be found that can save lives, allowing the world to return to how it was. There are many promising late-stage trials of stem cell therapies that reverse damage from COVID-associated acute respiratory distress syndrome (this is the killer). These are far more advanced than any vaccine candidates.
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Essentially it is just pulling flights from the NW20 scheduling season.
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One day the people down under will realise there’s no beating the virus. You can stay segregated from the outside world forever and cost yourselves millions of jobs or just let it rip like it has in Europe. It sounds like the most horrific option until you realise the number of those sadly deceased is no more than a bad flu year.

Here in the U.K. we have had 7 worse years in the past 30, naughty Sweden who didn’t really lockdown 24 worse years in the past 30. One day all this will be studied in lecture theatres under the title “the great over-reaction.”
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One day the people down under

Here in the U.K. ”
We're not the UK. we don't want to be the UK. Thanks for your input.
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Old 10th Jul 2020, 07:21
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Originally Posted by DooblerChina View Post
One day the people down under will realise there’s no beating the virus. You can stay segregated from the outside world forever and cost yourselves millions of jobs or just let it rip like it has in Europe. It sounds like the most horrific option until you realise the number of those sadly deceased is no more than a bad flu year.

Here in the U.K. we have had 7 worse years in the past 30, naughty Sweden who didn’t really lockdown 24 worse years in the past 30. One day all this will be studied in lecture theatres under the title “the great over-reaction.”
Please stay in the UK and ‘let it rip’. We will stay down here.. along way from the UK.
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Well it’s ripping through Melbourne, and probably NSW soon too.

Disaster...
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Originally Posted by DooblerChina View Post
One day the people down under will realise there’s no beating the virus. You can stay segregated from the outside world forever and cost yourselves millions of jobs or just let it rip like it has in Europe. It sounds like the most horrific option until you realise the number of those sadly deceased is no more than a bad flu year.
Here in the U.K. we have had 7 worse years in the past 30, naughty Sweden who didn’t really lockdown 24 worse years in the past 30. One day all this will be studied in lecture theatres under the title “the great over-reaction.”
Delusional. This will not cost Australia "millions of jobs", nowhere near that, but it we don't get this under control it WILL cost us many thousands of lives. Jobs lost can come back. Lives lost cannot. New jobs can be found. New parents, siblings, children, aunts and uncles, friends and colleagues cannot. I think if you began to lose people close to you due to COVID-19, and you saw their suffering, or if you caught it and survived but with the lifelong illnesses that affect many survivors, you would change your tune. I hope that doesn't happen, for your sake.

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Delusional. This will not cost Australia "millions of jobs", nowhere near that, but it we don't get this under control it WILL cost us many thousands of lives. Jobs lost can come back. Lives lost cannot. New jobs can be found. New parents, siblings, children, aunts and uncles, friends and colleagues cannot. I think if you began to lose people close to you due to COVID-19, and you saw their suffering, or if you caught it and survived but with the lifelong illnesses that affect many survivors, you would change your tune. I hope that doesn't happen, for your sake.
It already is “letting rip”. We had one chance to stop this. We almost did, when society didn’t know the mortality rate and people were scared of dying. Now when there are 288 cases recorded a day and climbing, the average Joe and 19 of his mates think it is still ok to order a bucket of KFC and have a house party at 130am. I.e. we have next to no chance of containing it second time round.

Dan Andrews has messed up, BIG time. Name me any leader, in the history of Australia, that has made an f-up even close to the same magnitude as this that threatens the entire future of our nation?

If anybody can I will shut up.
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Old 10th Jul 2020, 09:28
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Originally Posted by DooblerChina View Post
One day the people down under will realise there’s no beating the virus. You can stay segregated from the outside world forever and cost yourselves millions of jobs or just let it rip like it has in Europe. It sounds like the most horrific option until you realise the number of those sadly deceased is no more than a bad flu year.

Here in the U.K. we have had 7 worse years in the past 30, naughty Sweden who didn’t really lockdown 24 worse years in the past 30. One day all this will be studied in lecture theatres under the title “the great over-reaction.”
Here in the UK. Lol

As for ‘we’ve had 7 worse years’ check ya calendar, it’s only July son.

But when ya boys at Oxford come up with that Vaccine we’ll take some please!
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Dan Andrew has messed up, BIG time. Name me any leader, in the history of Australia, that has made an f-up even close to the same magnitude as this that threatens the entire future of our nation?

If anybody can I will shut up.
Gladys Berejiklian for letting the plague ship disembark in March and putting the virus in Australia in the first place. Or defunding NSW RFS and NSW Parks and Wildlife in the lead up to our worst predicted bushfire season. Or JBP and his police state of corruption. Or Colin Barnett in WA who squandered a once in a generation mining boom and suffered the biggest swing against him in Australian electoral history. Or Barry O’Farrell who had to resign for lying to the ICAC. There’s plenty to choose from and I’ve barely gone back in history.

Interestingly though I notice how the exact same people who were rabidly attacking Palaszczuk in Qld for “destroying the Queensland economy” by keeping the border closed have pretty much shut up without apologising and moved on to attacking Dan A.

Except Karl Stefanovic:

'Grovelling': Karl Stefanovic's apology to Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk over 'illogical' coronavirus restriction

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You didn’t read my question properly. I said “that threatens the entire future of our nation”. Ruby Princess could have but didn’t- the number of active COVID cases a month ago in NSW proves this. Not good but contained. And the virus was already here.

Whilst bushfires and all that are tragic (and I agree will possibly get worse) they and the other examples do not threaten the entire nation like this virus outbreak.

Next batter up...

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You didn’t read my question properly. I said “that threatens the entire future of our nation”.
You think this spike will “threaten the future of the entire nation”?

I dunno, countries in Europe had far worse spikes in March but 4 months later are returning to normal. Their future wasn’t threatened. I would say the future would be threatened if they did nothing about it but they haven’t, they’d re-implemented containment measures for a period of time. Australia won’t dissolve over this spike. I reckon 4-6 weeks of extra containment.

Now “threatening the future of the nation” would be responding like the US or Brazil have, totally ignoring it and then responding in a half assed way after bodies were lining up at hospitals.
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Old 10th Jul 2020, 10:48
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Being allowed to resume international flying and being able to make a profit from it may be very well separated dates. Some hub airlines will likely be profitable first as they offer multiple destination options from each Australian city they fly to, where as QF and Virgin only really offer city pairs.

At least QF are in a better position than Emirates, as they have B787s and A330s to replace the A380 and B747 with.
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