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Old 8th Jul 2020, 11:53
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Carmody walks the plank

Well Carmody called "Time" this afternoon.

I think it may be time for a very big broom! Mike Smith where are you now?
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 12:03
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Civil Aviation Safety Authority CEO and Director of Aviation Safety (DAS) Shane Carmody will leave the regulator at the end of 2020.

CASA Chairman Tony Mathews confirmed today that Carmody would retire four years after he was appointed to the role.

"The Board is very pleased with what Mr Carmody has achieved during his time as CEO/DAS, particularly the resolution of CASA’s long standing Regulatory Reform Program and much improved stakeholder confidence in CASA as a safety regulator," Mathews said.

"This Board is confident that CASA is on a firm footing for the future.

"To allow time for a replacement to be found, Mr Carmody will remain as CEO/DAS until the end of the year."

Carmody was appointed to the role as Acting DAS in October 2016 after the sudden departure of Mark Skidmore. He was confirmed in the role permanently in June the following year. Carmody is a career public servant and has had a long career in public service including in defence security intelligence, veterans affairs and a three-year stint as CASA Deputy DAS to Bruce Byron in 2006-9.

During his time as DAS, Carmody oversaw the end of the epic aviation safety regulation reform program, the implementation of the Basic Class 2 medical and the establishment of the Aviation Safety Advisory Panel (ASAP).
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 12:24
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Carmody “walks the plank”?

I think you mean “transitions to the comfort of a six-figure taxpayer-funded pension, supplemented by the occasional inquiry appointment.“

The only important question is: Who is Mick from the Wagga office going to appoint as Carmody’s replacement?
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 12:46
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Originally Posted by Lead Balloon View Post
Carmody “walks the plank”?

I think you mean “transitions to the comfort of a six-figure taxpayer-funded pension, supplemented by the occasional inquiry appointment.“

The only important question is: Who is Mick from the Wagga office going to appoint as Carmody’s replacement?
I have confidence that whoever he chooses, it will be the right decision. I have no doubt some people will disagree with me and that is fine but I actually have a lot of respect for Michael McCormack and think he is going to do a lot of good for the aviation industry in the long run!
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I have confidence that whoever he chooses, it will be the right decision. I have no doubt some people will disagree with me and that is fine but I actually have a lot of respect for Michael McCormack and think he is going to do a lot of good for the aviation industry in the long run!
Good grief, I don't believe I just read that.

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I actually have a lot of respect for Michael McCormack and think he is going to do a lot of good for the aviation industry in the long run!
You can't be serious?
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I have confidence that whoever he chooses, it will be the right decision. I have no doubt some people will disagree with me and that is fine but I actually have a lot of respect for Michael McCormack and think he is going to do a lot of good for the aviation industry in the long run!
Love the comedian!

McCormack is so good he makes Anderson look smart!

Now, back to the real world..........
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 22:35
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Why don't the experts on here apply?
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 22:40
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Still drinkin’ the CASA Koolaide, Vag? We’re all hoping you’ll apply!
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 22:56
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Originally Posted by Bodie1 View Post

You can't be serious?

Maybe I am just a little bit nieve because I am at the start of my career in aviation but I just believe in giving everyone a chance to prove themselves that's all. Politicians are humans like everyone else, sometimes they get it right and sometimes they get it wrong.

Shane Carmody was first appointed in June 2017 when Darren Chester was the Minister for Infrastructure and Transport. Whereas McCormack has only been Minister for Infrastructure and Transport since 2018 so I am assuming that until now he is yet to be involved in any process regarding the appointment of a new Director of Aviation Safety/CEO of CASA.

Besides from what I have been able to tell from the press release we actually don't know the real reasons why Shane Carmody has decided to leave his current position at this point. I assume that he is very happy with what he has achieved so far at CASA and feels for whatever reason he may have that now is the right time for someone else to take over the reigns who can lead CASA to more longer term regulatory reform.

I am just speculating of course and this is all just my personal opinion.
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 23:07
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Mindsneak, I suspect that Carmody has realised that he is unable to manage CASA in the sense that he has no aviation experience himself. Such an idea - that relevant experience is required of the thing you wish to manage, is regarded as outmoded by the purveyors of business courses and it is unfortunately not true.

Carmody would not know when people were talking bullshit to him when it related to aviation and that would have worn him down.

There is also the fact that the previous occupant, Skidmore, didn’t last either.

The departure suggests that maybe the alleged “iron ring” of immovable middle management is not a myth.
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 23:28
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I vote LKH for president.........the Minister for Obfuscation/ Aviation/ Rex would surely have no problems with him....
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Originally Posted by Sunfish View Post
Mindsneak, I suspect that Carmody has realised that he is unable to manage CASA in the sense that he has no aviation experience himself. Such an idea - that relevant experience is required of the thing you wish to manage, is regarded as outmoded by the purveyors of business courses and it is unfortunately not true.

Carmody would not know when people were talking bullshit to him when it related to aviation and that would have worn him down.

There is also the fact that the previous occupant, Skidmore, didn’t last either.

The departure suggests that maybe the alleged “iron ring” of immovable middle management is not a myth.
I actually could not agree more with you more Sunfish.

The next replacement should be someone who has actual and extensive relevant experience within the aviation industry. I understand to a degree the logic employed by the people who develop the business courses. However, I do not believe that there are many industries that are as heavily regulated, technical in nature and important in terms of public safety as aviation. It would make complete sense to me that the next director has relevant experience within aviation so he can effectively manage and communicate with those above and below him at all levels regardless of technical expertise.

I was just trying to make the point earlier that I believe between the board and McCormack's office that this may finally for once be achieved! After all they do say that "the true definition of crazy is doing something over and over again but expecting different results! Maybe it will be third time lucky?
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“Third” time? You’re showing your age, young fella.

Let’s recall who’s had a dabble at the regulatory reform program so far:

Keith
Toller
Byron
McCormick
Skidmore
Carmody
?

I don’t want to think about the money that’s been spent so far. And for what?
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 02:25
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Did I really read 'the resolution of the longstanding regulatory reform program' ??

Can't be so.. Only 600 odd pages in Part 61 and same in its' MOS isn't much of an achievement. Roll on 1000 pages in each. What's a few more pages of patronising, prescriptive legalese telling instructors how to suck eggs? With a legacy like this, any aviation experienced DAS would be sneaking out the backdoor at 16:59 on Friday.
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 02:30
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It is Orwellian. An incomplete dog’s breakfast is described as the resolution of the longstanding regulatory reform program. These people have no shame.
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Maybe I am just a little bit nieve because I am at the start of my career in aviation but I just believe in giving everyone a chance to prove themselves that's all.
Oh he's proven himself alright, to be a bumbling, incompetent fool.
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 04:04
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I simply ignore everything in Parts 61,141,142 and just fly. CAR 5 should be reinstated and dump this bubble headed nonsense.
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 04:18
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The Australian Way!

Why would ANYONE here be surprised by the way things have panned out? This is the Australian way, pedantry; Australia is a pedantic country, we take things to the nth degree, we do not allow common sense and I think that is because of our nature. Everything has to be very prescriptive because if something goes wrong it will be argued "well, the rules don't disallow that...." and that will be carried as a just defence and out comes a rewriting of the rules, we are very lawyerly! Notice when our pollies rip off their allowances and when caught the catchcry response is that the rules aren't clear enough "The rules don't say I can't fly to my mates party at taxpayers expense after only attending a "party meeting" in the same city for all of 5 minutes".

Intent never gets an airing, the response is always "but, that isn't what it says!". People look for workarounds and the response is more and more rule writing.

Lawyers love this approach, with a prescriptive approach you can find a way around whatever is in your way.
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Old 9th Jul 2020, 06:33
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Originally Posted by No Idea Either View Post
I vote LKH for president.........the Minister for Obfuscation/ Aviation/ Rex would surely have no problems with him....
If only there was an aviation Lobbyist a tad 'Sharper' than the rest- to campaign that for you........, hmmmm .

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