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REX to transition to ATRs, start domestic jet ops

Old 23rd Nov 2021, 18:52
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That’s what I’m thinking! Unless Rex have made some promises that will be hard to keep.
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Old 23rd Nov 2021, 20:11
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Originally Posted by BEACH KING View Post
while the pax get a fabulous all expenses paid BUS trip to their destination
At least the bus has airconditioning on the ground!!!
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Old 23rd Nov 2021, 21:26
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Originally Posted by BEACH KING View Post
Yeah...we learned today that Rex have picked up the western route out this way from Qlink..
Can't wait for those luxurious SAABs with no ground aircon,... and good riddance to those bloody Q400s with their ample space, extra seating that is usually full load and 100% reliability.

I mean APUs and ground aircon are so not carbon friendly.. and who needs aircon on the ground anyway on a 46 degree day.
The added excitement of betting if the SAAB will actually turn up.. and how many days it will spend spend sitting U/S on the tarmac while the pax get a fabulous all expenses paid BUS trip to their destination will add a new dimension to air travel.
Hang on.....maybe we are getting 737s!!!
I'm not defending rex or their saabs but I wouldn't say Qlink's reliability is any better or worse than Rex.
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Old 24th Nov 2021, 01:18
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Yep, as I sit here right now waiting for my now one hour late Qantas flight with no departure in sight. All hail qf
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Old 24th Nov 2021, 11:39
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Originally Posted by morno View Post
Apart from the new route, the rest have had Rex for years. And the people in places like Birdsville are just happy to have a flight, theyíre not that picky about how the air conditioning runs during a turnaround.
Ever sat on a non-airconed aircraft in the summer outback heat? Obviously if there's no other option then you simply cop it, but it's another thing when going from a cooled service to the giveaway "we'll keep this turn as short as possible".
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Old 24th Nov 2021, 13:22
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Originally Posted by TimmyTee View Post
Ever sat on a non-airconed aircraft in the summer outback heat? Obviously if there's no other option then you simply cop it, but it's another thing when going from a cooled service to the giveaway "we'll keep this turn as short as possible".
Every single day buddy.

Iíve also done one of these routes in summer on Rex. I had to admit, they did a pretty good job of keeping the cabin cool on those turnarounds.
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Old 24th Nov 2021, 18:39
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Truth is, these routes are not suitable for a Q400. The SAAB (air con aside) is a great sized aeroplane for the runs. As is a Dash 8-100. Skytrans must really be hurting.
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Old 25th Nov 2021, 00:19
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Originally Posted by TimmyTee View Post
Ever sat on a non-airconed aircraft in the summer outback heat? Obviously if there's no other option then you simply cop it, but it's another thing when going from a cooled service to the giveaway "we'll keep this turn as short as possible".
You guys know they have ground A/C carts right?? That does a pretty good job of cooling the cabin down, even in summer.

Or does that get in the way of the constant need to slag off Rex?

Iíd imagine theyíll install these in Charleville and Roma given the expected frequency every day.

Crikey the reaction on here to what is welcomed as positive news by the regional councils affected, youíd think the world had ended! If anything it shows the limitations (and real world effect) of QF moving up in size on regional routes. IE, people want frequency as well as a reasonable price. A Q400 is too big for these slimmer routes, perfect for a Saab though.
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Old 25th Nov 2021, 00:43
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I assume Qlink will be a bit more serious to retain the Longreach run, surprised they let Roma slip with all their Gas industry contracts but maybe they will continue with those
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Old 25th Nov 2021, 00:51
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Originally Posted by aviation_enthus View Post
You guys know they have ground A/C carts right?? That does a pretty good job of cooling the cabin down, even in summer.

Or does that get in the way of the constant need to slag off Rex?

Iíd imagine theyíll install these in Charleville and Roma given the expected frequency every day.

Crikey the reaction on here to what is welcomed as positive news by the regional councils affected, youíd think the world had ended! If anything it shows the limitations (and real world effect) of QF moving up in size on regional routes. IE, people want frequency as well as a reasonable price. A Q400 is too big for these slimmer routes, perfect for a Saab though.

SAAB 340 has a Hotel mode that allows the RH engine to run with prop stopped to provide ground air [same at ATR]
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Old 25th Nov 2021, 01:17
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You guys know they have ground A/C carts right?? That does a pretty good job of cooling the cabin down, even in summer.
Don’t know how many summers you’ve done in the Saab (or if you’ve used an air conditioning cart anywhere north of Melbourne) but A/C carts do sweet FA cooling the cabin down on even a slightly warm day and the A/C on the aircraft even less so especially on short sectors.
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Old 25th Nov 2021, 01:19
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Originally Posted by TBM-Legend View Post
SAAB 340 has a Hotel mode that allows the RH engine to run with prop stopped to provide ground air [same at ATR]
On REX SAABs this feature does not exist/has been disabled
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Old 25th Nov 2021, 02:55
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Originally Posted by Bull_Shark View Post
Donít know how many summers youíve done in the Saab (or if youíve used an air conditioning cart anywhere north of Melbourne) but A/C carts do sweet FA cooling the cabin down on even a slightly warm day and the A/C on the aircraft even less so especially on short sectors.
second this
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Old 25th Nov 2021, 03:16
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An ideal aircraft for shorter sectors/quick turns (if not equipped with an APU) would be something with a vapour cycle machine. Like a B1900D, Of which Rex previously had access to.
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Old 25th Nov 2021, 03:36
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Originally Posted by holdingagain View Post
I assume Qlink will be a bit more serious to retain the Longreach run, surprised they let Roma slip with all their Gas industry contracts but maybe they will continue with those
It was the Roma-Charleville run. As far as I'm aware QLink is still free to operate to Roma as a standalone run and no longer need to block out seats for Charleville passengers.

Agreed with others, the Q400 is far too big for Charleville, especially if the contract stipulated a daily service.

There is already an air cart in Charleville as Rex already operate through there on one of the other TMR runs.
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Old 25th Nov 2021, 10:35
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Originally Posted by Bull_Shark View Post
Donít know how many summers youíve done in the Saab (or if youíve used an air conditioning cart anywhere north of Melbourne) but A/C carts do sweet FA cooling the cabin down on even a slightly warm day and the A/C on the aircraft even less so especially on short sectors.
So what aircraft do you propose then? A realistic one.

Iím not a fan of Rex either, but they do a pretty good job on these runs considering. The locals love them and reliability is way up there as well.

You will find the people who live in these small towns arenít too snobby to turn their noses up at an aircraft without an APU, unlike most on this forum it appears.
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Old 25th Nov 2021, 11:37
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Originally Posted by Bull_Shark View Post
Donít know how many summers youíve done in the Saab (or if youíve used an air conditioning cart anywhere north of Melbourne) but A/C carts do sweet FA cooling the cabin down on even a slightly warm day and the A/C on the aircraft even less so especially on short sectors.
Just a coupleÖ Around North QLD in both Dash 8 and Saab. When itís 40C outside, everything struggles. But thatís from my actual experience, not whatever bias the rest of you are basing your comments on!

Dash 8 even with an APU struggled and never cooled down on short sectors.

The Saab was actually much better once the engines were running, cooled down much faster.

The a/c carts did a reasonable job of cooling the cabin, didnít helps us up the front though.
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Old 25th Nov 2021, 12:12
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Rex management just made a lowball offer to their saab crew for their 4 year expired EBA. The company is delusional to think that they still hold the power over the pilot group. 2022 will be their undoing.
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Old 25th Nov 2021, 13:25
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Just wait until EK starts ripping through the Rex ranks again in a few years.

It will become nothing but a ticket to gain access to bigger operators. I know a few who have said this. Do a few years then apply for the real job.

Will be one of those places where people are already leaving before they have even started.
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Old 25th Nov 2021, 14:33
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So what aircraft do you propose then? A realistic one.
Not proposing any aircraft, just saying the air conditioning carts are sh!t.
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