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Old 15th Dec 2021, 04:15
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PoppaJo, Appreciate the load updates
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Old 15th Dec 2021, 07:23
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Given these loads, and how busy Mascot has been how long does this operation have left as a guess? Do they persist for a few yrs.
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Old 4th Jan 2022, 05:34
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So a couple of weeks into the new Brisbane runs. Anyone know how they've been going?
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Old 4th Jan 2022, 06:01
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Originally Posted by pinkpanther1
So a couple of weeks into the new Brisbane runs. Anyone know how they've been going?
Same old same old. Today looks like a disaster. Looks like one went out with 60 though. The rest you could fill a Saab.
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Old 4th Jan 2022, 06:31
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Was stuck at SY for a while and counted at least one with 80+ and another with over 100, I hope you didn't pay for the software you are using.
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Old 4th Jan 2022, 06:39
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Well I seen two of the 737 in the long term parking in SY that have not moved in a few days, one would guess they’re not busy.
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Old 4th Jan 2022, 07:12
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Originally Posted by 43Inches
Was stuck at SY for a while and counted at least one with 80+ and another with over 100, I hope you didn't pay for the software you are using.
Your right, seems like there is a 150 and 120.

However do note they have cancelled and combined half the flights on the route at the moment. I don’t think that is an issue unique to Rex either at the moment. Looks like Rex has pulled ML-SY down to twice a day from this week, most other routes only one a day.

The software shows Virgin is pretty busy however.

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Old 4th Jan 2022, 08:24
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I wonder if they have a lot COVID cash to support the start up operation?
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Old 16th Jan 2022, 22:54
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there you go

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Old 17th Jan 2022, 01:54
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SAABs are going, I don’t see to many 73s going, few parked up in SY.
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Old 17th Jan 2022, 08:46
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SAABs are going, I don’t see to many 73s going, few parked up in SY.
Saab schedules have been cut slightly but still a lot of movement. Pax loads have been bad for the 737, but I don't have specific numbers.
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Old 17th Jan 2022, 09:39
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737 operation is basically in hibernation mode for the moment. Tomorrow eg only 8 flights. I don’t see demand improving at all until April. Next few months will be very quiet.

Come back at Easter. Only really a two airline market at the moment, if that.
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Old 17th Jan 2022, 11:37
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737 operation is basically in hibernation mode for the moment. Tomorrow eg only 8 flights. I don’t see demand improving at all until April. Next few months will be very quiet.
According to the famous Project Mother strategy these new jets at Rex should be raking in the cash by now.

Obviously with the ongoing Covid situation that isn’t happening so the question has to be how much is this costing Rex and how much longer can they continue to prop up an unviable business model?

Have Rex renegotiated lease rates? All airlines are hurting and bleeding cash, what are Rex doing to minimise this?

Or are they by some miracle actually making enough money to see them through despite indications otherwise?
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Old 17th Jan 2022, 11:46
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Rex share price dives a massive 33% last year while Qantas edges higher


It is interesting to note that the Rex share price dropped 33% last year while Qantas edged a few percent higher…
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Old 17th Jan 2022, 12:01
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Originally Posted by Bull_Shark
Rex share price dives a massive 33% last year while Qantas edges higher


It is interesting to note that the Rex share price dropped 33% last year while Qantas edged a few percent higher…
The time frame for the comparison is critical to the outcome, basically driven by the optimistically high REX share price coming into 2021 (cos, you know, there'd never been a better time to expand into the domestic market) versus the more subdued pricing for QAN.

Interestingly or otherwise, if you look at the comparative performance of the two shares starting from when Rex first listed back in 2005, there's not much between the two with Rex up by about 30 percent over those 16 years and Qantas up by around 24 percent over the same period.
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Old 17th Jan 2022, 17:13
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Originally Posted by Bull_Shark
Rex share price dives a massive 33% last year while Qantas edges higher


It is interesting to note that the Rex share price dropped 33% last year while Qantas edged a few percent higher…
The general consensus for investors is that Qantas is "too big to fail" and the government will just throw more money at it and Rex market cap has been well overpriced since the jet announcement
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Old 17th Jan 2022, 21:40
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Is the REXJET operation going to survive………probably not (IMHO)
Is it going to drags down the turboprop side………hopefully not
Will VA buy out a distressed REX in a year or two………who %#&$ knows!!!

BUT, having seen the redundancies and rejoin ‘angst’ at VA, I hope any ‘rusted on’ drivers at REX who may have jumped to the jet have a ‘plan B’. If the jets go, anyone associated with them will go as well, as we saw at VA, and that included people who were here from the beginning!!!! Not saying it would come to this but if I was at REX I would be thinking about my long term future rather than short term ‘shiny jet’ time, unless of course you’re a youngster and planning on leaving any way….

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Old 17th Jan 2022, 22:11
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Originally Posted by No Idea Either
Is the REXJET operation going to survive………probably not (IMHO)
Is it going to drags down the turboprop side………hopefully not
Will VA buy out a distressed REX in a year or two………who %#&$ knows!!!

BUT, having seen the redundancies and rejoin ‘angst’ at VA, I hope any ‘rusted on’ drivers at REX who may have jumped to
the jet have a ‘plan B’. If the jets go, anyone associated with them will go as well, as we saw at VA, and that included people who were 5here from the beginning!!!! Not saying it would come to this but if I was at REX I would be thinking about my long term future rather than short term ‘shiny jet’ time, unless of course you’re a youngster and planning on leaving any way….
Like you, I doubt the REX 737 operation can survive but I don't think it would bring down the turboprop side; you'd hope the directors have enough brains to know what is their core business and protect it.

I would be very surprised if VA were interested in acquiring REX. Bain seem very disciplined in delivering on their strategy and there is no indication that regional ops (outside FIFO) play a part in this. Were they to eventually throw a lifeline, it wouldn't be before the jet operation is put out of its misery.
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Old 17th Jan 2022, 22:30
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You can’t buy RexJet because there is nothing to buy. Jets are leased, Sydney slots are International borrowed, passenger base is non existent. What exactly are you buying? The employees and Jets you can hire and lease without the need to buy the airline. You just wait for it to fall over. We all know who the leasing company will be approaching basically immediately when it falls over. The passengers won’t be crying on employees shoulders because there is none. The only losers here are the front line employees.

All people want is a cheap fare. That market is covered with Jetstar. They don’t want country hospitality.
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Old 19th Jan 2022, 10:20
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Yeah, made a bit of a mistake asking about REX bashers, I was hoping that people would note that they are still going , I was hoping to get some positive post , but there you go
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