REX to transition to ATRs, start domestic jet ops
So REX has approval from CASA to in-house type ratings from scratch
Pretty quick for that sort of approval if it’s true.
Not sure if your being sarcastic Capn’, can you confirm that REX have this approval or not....
Capn’
the ‘if it’s true’ should have been a give away. No worries friend, I probably should have inserted a question mark to make it a bit clearer. As you rightly said, I have no idea.
the ‘if it’s true’ should have been a give away. No worries friend, I probably should have inserted a question mark to make it a bit clearer. As you rightly said, I have no idea.
Taking "all the IP with them" is often called "theft". But it would depend on the delta between what you think IP is versus what IP actually is, and who owns the actual IP.
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There is no IP. The Syllabus is freely available from Boeing and CASA would insist that be adhered to. The Standards are in the MOS and there is a CASA provided template to do the 142 approval. Put them all together and away you go. The Instructor and Examiner approvals are the individuals qualifications and they can do and work for who they choose.
There is IP. It's just that its owners have licensed its use on a royalty-free basis.
And do you think that there is no commercial arrangement between Boeing (and Airbus) and 'operators' that covers that access?
Access to documentation is most assuredly not free. Boeing don't plaster
over their documents for no good reason.
Access to documentation is most assuredly not free. Boeing don't plaster
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While it is a while since I got these documents from Boeing, that is not the case with Airbus. They are freely available on Airbus World without limitation and it is in the manufacturers interest to hope any operator uses the syllabus provided and I can assure you CASA insist on it in the Part 142 approval process if you want approval to do type ratings on that particular aircraft. You can add more or move things or the order around but they will tick off each and every item in the syllabus to make sure it is covered.
In the case of Airbus there was no fee for the syllabus just as there were no fees for a lot of the other great publications they produce in the interest of safety and training. There were fees for other technical support.
In case I wasn't clear there is no IP that "VA" could claim in regards to this unless their documents were copied in toto and you just don't need to do that as everything is easily available and why would Rex open themselves up to it. I'm no fan of Rex and certainly do not believe they should have been subsidised to enable them to start this operation but even I think they are smarter than that.
End of it for me. Got better things to do.
I'm not going to do the rounds on this.
While it is a while since I got these documents from Boeing, that is not the case with Airbus. They are freely available on Airbus World without limitation and it is in the manufacturers interest to hope any operator uses the syllabus provided and I can assure you CASA insist on it in the Part 142 approval process if you want approval to do type ratings on that particular aircraft. You can add more or move things or the order around but they will tick off each and every item in the syllabus to make sure it is covered.
In the case of Airbus there was no fee for the syllabus just as there were no fees for a lot of the other great publications they produce in the interest of safety and training. There were fees for other technical support.
In case I wasn't clear there is no IP that "VA" could claim in regards to this unless their documents were copied in toto and you just don't need to do that as everything is easily available and why would Rex open themselves up to it. I'm no fan of Rex and certainly do not believe they should have been subsidised to enable them to start this operation but even I think they are smarter than that.
End of it for me. Got better things to do.
While it is a while since I got these documents from Boeing, that is not the case with Airbus. They are freely available on Airbus World without limitation and it is in the manufacturers interest to hope any operator uses the syllabus provided and I can assure you CASA insist on it in the Part 142 approval process if you want approval to do type ratings on that particular aircraft. You can add more or move things or the order around but they will tick off each and every item in the syllabus to make sure it is covered.
In the case of Airbus there was no fee for the syllabus just as there were no fees for a lot of the other great publications they produce in the interest of safety and training. There were fees for other technical support.
In case I wasn't clear there is no IP that "VA" could claim in regards to this unless their documents were copied in toto and you just don't need to do that as everything is easily available and why would Rex open themselves up to it. I'm no fan of Rex and certainly do not believe they should have been subsidised to enable them to start this operation but even I think they are smarter than that.
End of it for me. Got better things to do.
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They might be "freely available" once you have acces to Airbus World, but in my experience access to Airbus World is fairly tightly controlled (well it is in my company anyway). I'm sure the company is paying for it either directly or indirectly and there are restrictions on what you can and can't do with the information available there.
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Saying it's 'freely available' is like saying that food at the breakfast buffet at your hotel is 'freely available' - it's available but it's been paid for.
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