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Sunfish is correct
According to the World Food Program covid lockdowns affecting the food supply chain will push an extra 60 to 70 million people to the brink of starvation. But hey at least they have been saved from the virus.
As for Covid19, the danger comes not from lethality but logistics.
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So what are you trying to say?
There are about 33 deaths per million cases in Australia?
So that death rate is about .000033%
If that's the case, why are there border closures? Shouldn't we be dancing in the streets? Hugging and Kissing? Because the death rate is so insignificantly small?
There are about 33 deaths per million cases in Australia?
So that death rate is about .000033%
If that's the case, why are there border closures? Shouldn't we be dancing in the streets? Hugging and Kissing? Because the death rate is so insignificantly small?
the Victorian Gov is a disgrace, get yourself sorted and hire resources.
Despite the temporary closures and lack of staff, Victorian health authorities processed more tests than their NSW colleagues on Saturday — 22,477 samples compared to 18,923 — although that remains far short of the more than 40,000 daily tests undertaken at the height of the second coronavirus wave.
By 9.30am on Sunday, the Department of Health and Human Services listed drive-through sites in Darebin, Keysborough and West Footscray as “over capacity, no further accepted”. Cars were also turned away from the Melbourne Sports and Aquatic Centre in Albert Park, which was listed as a three-hour wait, and sites in Chadstone, St Albans and Broadmeadows had waiting times of more than two hours.But Jeroen Weimar, who is co-ordinating Victoria’s COVID-19 response, defended the long waiting times for testing.
“There was a 35 per cent uplift in the total number of tests delivered in the south and southeastern suburbs yesterday compared to the day before so we are getting the numbers through,” he said. “Our frontline staff have been working phenomenally hard for that entire period and we have seen a significant number of people rightly take some well-*deserved leave as we see across the wider sector, so we have had to gear up and mobilise,” he said.
“The choice we faced before Christmas was, do you hold people over and not let them go on leave after absolutely flogging themselves for nine months (or) do you say, ‘no, you have to stand around the testing stations on the off chance’ … we took a view that we needed to have the right balance of resources.”
The DHHS has identified a number of new exposure sites, with the number of infections in the state reaching 50.
New locations on Sunday included Brighton Beach on December 29 between midday and 3pm, Angus and Cootes Jeweller at Southland Shopping Centre on December 28 between 2.30pm and 2.50pm and the Costco Moorabbin on December 30 between 4pm and 5.50pm.
Queensland Chief Health Officer Jeannette Young said there would not be any border restriction on Melbourne or Victoria “at this stage”. “But we’re keeping a very, very close eye on that,” she said on Sunday, after Victoria reported three new local cases.
Another Melbourne location, Grape & Grain in Moorabbin, which had yet to appear in DHHS warnings, said it would remain closed after staff tested positive.
The DHHS plans to boost testing capacity by extending hours, recalling staff, bringing on board agency staff and opening more pop-up and drive-through sites.
The Victorian branch of the Australian Nursing and Midwifery Federation posted a message on Facebook seeking “urgent support” from nurses and midwives to work in testing sites across the state on behalf of Torrens Health and the health department: “Shift lengths will vary from between six and 10 hours; travel and meal allowances are available in some circumstances.”
“I think 60,000 people made the right decision … to come back; I am confident the vast majority will follow through and say, right, I need to make sure I get tested because I don’t want to put myself at risk,” Mr Weimar said.
Coronavirus Australia live news: Swamped testing sites turn away thousands
COVID-19 testing sites across Melbourne closed within an hour of opening on Sunday, swamped by thousands of Victorians requiring tests after returning from NSW and further stressed by health staff taking holiday leave.Despite the temporary closures and lack of staff, Victorian health authorities processed more tests than their NSW colleagues on Saturday — 22,477 samples compared to 18,923 — although that remains far short of the more than 40,000 daily tests undertaken at the height of the second coronavirus wave.
By 9.30am on Sunday, the Department of Health and Human Services listed drive-through sites in Darebin, Keysborough and West Footscray as “over capacity, no further accepted”. Cars were also turned away from the Melbourne Sports and Aquatic Centre in Albert Park, which was listed as a three-hour wait, and sites in Chadstone, St Albans and Broadmeadows had waiting times of more than two hours.But Jeroen Weimar, who is co-ordinating Victoria’s COVID-19 response, defended the long waiting times for testing.
“There was a 35 per cent uplift in the total number of tests delivered in the south and southeastern suburbs yesterday compared to the day before so we are getting the numbers through,” he said. “Our frontline staff have been working phenomenally hard for that entire period and we have seen a significant number of people rightly take some well-*deserved leave as we see across the wider sector, so we have had to gear up and mobilise,” he said.
“The choice we faced before Christmas was, do you hold people over and not let them go on leave after absolutely flogging themselves for nine months (or) do you say, ‘no, you have to stand around the testing stations on the off chance’ … we took a view that we needed to have the right balance of resources.”
The DHHS has identified a number of new exposure sites, with the number of infections in the state reaching 50.
New locations on Sunday included Brighton Beach on December 29 between midday and 3pm, Angus and Cootes Jeweller at Southland Shopping Centre on December 28 between 2.30pm and 2.50pm and the Costco Moorabbin on December 30 between 4pm and 5.50pm.
Queensland Chief Health Officer Jeannette Young said there would not be any border restriction on Melbourne or Victoria “at this stage”. “But we’re keeping a very, very close eye on that,” she said on Sunday, after Victoria reported three new local cases.
Another Melbourne location, Grape & Grain in Moorabbin, which had yet to appear in DHHS warnings, said it would remain closed after staff tested positive.
The DHHS plans to boost testing capacity by extending hours, recalling staff, bringing on board agency staff and opening more pop-up and drive-through sites.
The Victorian branch of the Australian Nursing and Midwifery Federation posted a message on Facebook seeking “urgent support” from nurses and midwives to work in testing sites across the state on behalf of Torrens Health and the health department: “Shift lengths will vary from between six and 10 hours; travel and meal allowances are available in some circumstances.”
“I think 60,000 people made the right decision … to come back; I am confident the vast majority will follow through and say, right, I need to make sure I get tested because I don’t want to put myself at risk,” Mr Weimar said.
I am not being smart but really curious as to how they should do it in your opinion.
I dont know if you agree with the small time frame given re the border closing but for the amount of people really angry at how quick it happened there are just as many slamming the govt for not closing it as soon as the sydney outbreak happened.
Im not suggesting the vic govt is perfect by any means but to me i believe they are doing a fairly good job right now however i may be just plain silly for doing so!
So what are you trying to say?
There are about 33 deaths per million cases in Australia?
So that death rate is about .000033%
If that's the case, why are there border closures? Shouldn't we be dancing in the streets? Hugging and Kissing? Because the death rate is so insignificantly small?
There are about 33 deaths per million cases in Australia?
So that death rate is about .000033%
If that's the case, why are there border closures? Shouldn't we be dancing in the streets? Hugging and Kissing? Because the death rate is so insignificantly small?
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NSW were able to test over 50,000 a week without missing a beat. They were not expecting those numbers they were as always prepared. I still don’t understand why Vic, QLD and other states are not prepared.
Vic in a mess,ok sounds like you know everything & have all the answers,you should be pm.
Never mind that in the early stages of the Northern Beaches F/U the queues were just as long, if not longer, with Oz-wide coverage of nasal whining from occupants of vehicles complaining that they'd been in the queue for 5 - 7 hours with no food or access to toilet facilities.
But that is "gold standard" Covid control policy, apparently. Impeccable planning. The world's best.
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That is a good number credit when credit is due hopefully Sydney matches it.
I said NSW has had long lines never said they were quick, northern beaches line up were long and my hat goes off to those residents the did a brilliant job sticking it out but NSW never turned anyone away due to having to shut up shop at 21:30. They got the job done.
Let’s not forget how this outbreak in Avalon and Western Sydney started in December the giant hole in this is international arrivals.
I said NSW has had long lines never said they were quick, northern beaches line up were long and my hat goes off to those residents the did a brilliant job sticking it out but NSW never turned anyone away due to having to shut up shop at 21:30. They got the job done.
Let’s not forget how this outbreak in Avalon and Western Sydney started in December the giant hole in this is international arrivals.
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He's saying border closures work and if we don't limit movement during outbreaks our death rate will follow Sweden, US and UK
So you're using Chairman Dan or Sunfish evidence now?It must be Sunfish evidence because only a moron would present such stupidity as evidence.
You shouldn’t be criticising the statistics presented by others when you get your own so egregiously wrong. There have been 909 deaths in Australia from covid-19 as of todays date, so if there were 33 per million cases as you state, that would imply Australia had approx 27.5 million cases of covid-19 - that every single person in Australia had been infected, which is clearly not the case. There have been 909 deaths and 28504 cases as of today, giving a death rate of 3.18% of confirmed infections. Entirely different to your statement, which is off by a factor of around 100,000.