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Stats are only good if you understand a bit about them.
I do hope you will answer the 300 guys in a real bad time line position - I do not think they have any options but become illegal.
I know of only 2 cases that months ago got out and back in.
Many of the skilled visas were also granted long ago with PR and every right to enter.
Tourist visas (but that covers possibly many of Tom Hanks crew) is very low - I do not see the point of your post.
The reason the international borders are closed is to avoid the arrival of millions of well heeled citizens of third world countries seeking an escape from their homeland covid epidemics.
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Queen P puts up $200 million for Virgin to remain in Brisbane, then she closes border virgin sack staff then claims she would rather loose election than open the border virgin sack more staff....mostly in Brisbane money well spent again QLD.
In a note to staff on Monday, Virgin chief executive Paul Scurrah said the aviation industry was “in the midst of the worst crisis” it had ever faced.
“Our cash management throughout this period is absolutely critical,” Mr Scurrah wrote.
“One of our largest costs is labour, and with much less transitionary work required as the administration process is coming to an end and without the revenue coming through the door, we simply cannot justify the number of team members who are currently stood up.”
The redundancies will be the second since the airline was purchased by private equity outfit Bain Capital after it fell into administration in April as the coronavirus pandemic shuttered airports and left planes stranded.
Virgin chief executive Paul Scurrah at the company’s Southbank office. Picture: Tara CroserVirgin announced earlier this month it would make a third of its workforce — around 3000 people — redundant.
Mr Scurrah, who has remained the company’s chief executive through the Deloitte-run administration, said staff who had been stood down would likely remain so until March 2021, a position which would be reviewed in January.
‘Consultation will occur immediately for roles which are identified as no longer being required as a result of the smaller operation and reduced work,” Mr Scurrah wrote.
“We expect around 150 roles to be impacted in addition to the 250 head office roles that have recently been impacted within the operations division.”
But Virgin will also begin a comprehensive review of the way head office works, with Mr Scurrah suggesting it would be redesigned “to suit a smaller, simpler operation”.
“The reality is this will also have the regrettable impact of further job losses,” he wrote.
“I’m aware that for many of you it will feel like we have already done this … last year.
“However, the world and our business have significantly changed since then which must be addressed.”
Virgin last week permanently shut down its Tigerair budget brand after 13 years, although it will retain the air operator certificate so it can revive a low-cost carrier when the domestic travel market has recovered.
As part of Bain Capital’s plan, Virgin will simplify its fleet and largely operate Boeing 737s, removing ATRs, Boeing 777s, Airbus A330s and Airbus A320s.
Virgin’s larger rival, Qantas, has also made significant job cuts through the year. Most recently, it announced 2500 positions across Qantas and its Jetstar brand would be made redundant on top of 6000 jobs cut in June.
Qantas in August recorded a $2bn loss as the coronavirus pandemic pushed full-year revenue down by 21 per cent.
Qantas shares ended up three per cent on Monday at $3.94.
Bain Capital, which offered $3.5bn for Virgin, has had the backing of the Transport Workers Union after the private equity group gave commitments to keep the airline as a full-service carrier and not switch to a low-cost model.
Mr Scurrah told staff on Monday that it was “clear that the impacts of various government decisions to deal with COVID continue to subdue demand for flying”.
“With our current capacity sitting at around 10 per cent, which is supported by federal government subsidies to ensure some limited transportation infrastructure remains functional, the outlook has never been less certain.
“Regrettably, we must again take action to address the impact of this ongoing crisis on our business,” he said.
‘In the midst of the worst crisis’: up to 250 Virgin head office jobs face axe
Virgin Australia wide-body aircraft are seen grounded at the Brisbane Airport. Picture: Glenn Hunt- exclusive
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In a note to staff on Monday, Virgin chief executive Paul Scurrah said the aviation industry was “in the midst of the worst crisis” it had ever faced.
“Our cash management throughout this period is absolutely critical,” Mr Scurrah wrote.
“One of our largest costs is labour, and with much less transitionary work required as the administration process is coming to an end and without the revenue coming through the door, we simply cannot justify the number of team members who are currently stood up.”
The redundancies will be the second since the airline was purchased by private equity outfit Bain Capital after it fell into administration in April as the coronavirus pandemic shuttered airports and left planes stranded.
Virgin chief executive Paul Scurrah at the company’s Southbank office. Picture: Tara CroserVirgin announced earlier this month it would make a third of its workforce — around 3000 people — redundant.
Mr Scurrah, who has remained the company’s chief executive through the Deloitte-run administration, said staff who had been stood down would likely remain so until March 2021, a position which would be reviewed in January.
‘Consultation will occur immediately for roles which are identified as no longer being required as a result of the smaller operation and reduced work,” Mr Scurrah wrote.
“We expect around 150 roles to be impacted in addition to the 250 head office roles that have recently been impacted within the operations division.”
But Virgin will also begin a comprehensive review of the way head office works, with Mr Scurrah suggesting it would be redesigned “to suit a smaller, simpler operation”.
“The reality is this will also have the regrettable impact of further job losses,” he wrote.
“I’m aware that for many of you it will feel like we have already done this … last year.
“However, the world and our business have significantly changed since then which must be addressed.”
Virgin last week permanently shut down its Tigerair budget brand after 13 years, although it will retain the air operator certificate so it can revive a low-cost carrier when the domestic travel market has recovered.
As part of Bain Capital’s plan, Virgin will simplify its fleet and largely operate Boeing 737s, removing ATRs, Boeing 777s, Airbus A330s and Airbus A320s.
Virgin’s larger rival, Qantas, has also made significant job cuts through the year. Most recently, it announced 2500 positions across Qantas and its Jetstar brand would be made redundant on top of 6000 jobs cut in June.
Qantas in August recorded a $2bn loss as the coronavirus pandemic pushed full-year revenue down by 21 per cent.
Qantas shares ended up three per cent on Monday at $3.94.
Bain Capital, which offered $3.5bn for Virgin, has had the backing of the Transport Workers Union after the private equity group gave commitments to keep the airline as a full-service carrier and not switch to a low-cost model.
Mr Scurrah told staff on Monday that it was “clear that the impacts of various government decisions to deal with COVID continue to subdue demand for flying”.
“With our current capacity sitting at around 10 per cent, which is supported by federal government subsidies to ensure some limited transportation infrastructure remains functional, the outlook has never been less certain.
“Regrettably, we must again take action to address the impact of this ongoing crisis on our business,” he said.
Queen P puts up $200 million for Virgin to remain in Brisbane, then she closes border virgin sack staff then claims she would rather loose election than open the border virgin sack more staff....mostly in Brisbane money well spent again QLD.
In a note to staff on Monday, Virgin chief executive Paul Scurrah said the aviation industry was “in the midst of the worst crisis” it had ever faced.
“Our cash management throughout this period is absolutely critical,” Mr Scurrah wrote.
“One of our largest costs is labour, and with much less transitionary work required as the administration process is coming to an end and without the revenue coming through the door, we simply cannot justify the number of team members who are currently stood up.”
The redundancies will be the second since the airline was purchased by private equity outfit Bain Capital after it fell into administration in April as the coronavirus pandemic shuttered airports and left planes stranded.
Virgin chief executive Paul Scurrah at the company’s Southbank office. Picture: Tara CroserVirgin announced earlier this month it would make a third of its workforce — around 3000 people — redundant.
Mr Scurrah, who has remained the company’s chief executive through the Deloitte-run administration, said staff who had been stood down would likely remain so until March 2021, a position which would be reviewed in January.
‘Consultation will occur immediately for roles which are identified as no longer being required as a result of the smaller operation and reduced work,” Mr Scurrah wrote.
“We expect around 150 roles to be impacted in addition to the 250 head office roles that have recently been impacted within the operations division.”
But Virgin will also begin a comprehensive review of the way head office works, with Mr Scurrah suggesting it would be redesigned “to suit a smaller, simpler operation”.
“The reality is this will also have the regrettable impact of further job losses,” he wrote.
“I’m aware that for many of you it will feel like we have already done this … last year.
“However, the world and our business have significantly changed since then which must be addressed.”
Virgin last week permanently shut down its Tigerair budget brand after 13 years, although it will retain the air operator certificate so it can revive a low-cost carrier when the domestic travel market has recovered.
As part of Bain Capital’s plan, Virgin will simplify its fleet and largely operate Boeing 737s, removing ATRs, Boeing 777s, Airbus A330s and Airbus A320s.
Virgin’s larger rival, Qantas, has also made significant job cuts through the year. Most recently, it announced 2500 positions across Qantas and its Jetstar brand would be made redundant on top of 6000 jobs cut in June.
Qantas in August recorded a $2bn loss as the coronavirus pandemic pushed full-year revenue down by 21 per cent.
Qantas shares ended up three per cent on Monday at $3.94.
Bain Capital, which offered $3.5bn for Virgin, has had the backing of the Transport Workers Union after the private equity group gave commitments to keep the airline as a full-service carrier and not switch to a low-cost model.
Mr Scurrah told staff on Monday that it was “clear that the impacts of various government decisions to deal with COVID continue to subdue demand for flying”.
“With our current capacity sitting at around 10 per cent, which is supported by federal government subsidies to ensure some limited transportation infrastructure remains functional, the outlook has never been less certain.
“Regrettably, we must again take action to address the impact of this ongoing crisis on our business,” he said.
‘In the midst of the worst crisis’: up to 250 Virgin head office jobs face axe
Virgin Australia wide-body aircraft are seen grounded at the Brisbane Airport. Picture: Glenn Hunt- exclusive
Imogen Reid
In a note to staff on Monday, Virgin chief executive Paul Scurrah said the aviation industry was “in the midst of the worst crisis” it had ever faced.
“Our cash management throughout this period is absolutely critical,” Mr Scurrah wrote.
“One of our largest costs is labour, and with much less transitionary work required as the administration process is coming to an end and without the revenue coming through the door, we simply cannot justify the number of team members who are currently stood up.”
The redundancies will be the second since the airline was purchased by private equity outfit Bain Capital after it fell into administration in April as the coronavirus pandemic shuttered airports and left planes stranded.
Virgin chief executive Paul Scurrah at the company’s Southbank office. Picture: Tara CroserVirgin announced earlier this month it would make a third of its workforce — around 3000 people — redundant.
Mr Scurrah, who has remained the company’s chief executive through the Deloitte-run administration, said staff who had been stood down would likely remain so until March 2021, a position which would be reviewed in January.
‘Consultation will occur immediately for roles which are identified as no longer being required as a result of the smaller operation and reduced work,” Mr Scurrah wrote.
“We expect around 150 roles to be impacted in addition to the 250 head office roles that have recently been impacted within the operations division.”
But Virgin will also begin a comprehensive review of the way head office works, with Mr Scurrah suggesting it would be redesigned “to suit a smaller, simpler operation”.
“The reality is this will also have the regrettable impact of further job losses,” he wrote.
“I’m aware that for many of you it will feel like we have already done this … last year.
“However, the world and our business have significantly changed since then which must be addressed.”
Virgin last week permanently shut down its Tigerair budget brand after 13 years, although it will retain the air operator certificate so it can revive a low-cost carrier when the domestic travel market has recovered.
As part of Bain Capital’s plan, Virgin will simplify its fleet and largely operate Boeing 737s, removing ATRs, Boeing 777s, Airbus A330s and Airbus A320s.
Virgin’s larger rival, Qantas, has also made significant job cuts through the year. Most recently, it announced 2500 positions across Qantas and its Jetstar brand would be made redundant on top of 6000 jobs cut in June.
Qantas in August recorded a $2bn loss as the coronavirus pandemic pushed full-year revenue down by 21 per cent.
Qantas shares ended up three per cent on Monday at $3.94.
Bain Capital, which offered $3.5bn for Virgin, has had the backing of the Transport Workers Union after the private equity group gave commitments to keep the airline as a full-service carrier and not switch to a low-cost model.
Mr Scurrah told staff on Monday that it was “clear that the impacts of various government decisions to deal with COVID continue to subdue demand for flying”.
“With our current capacity sitting at around 10 per cent, which is supported by federal government subsidies to ensure some limited transportation infrastructure remains functional, the outlook has never been less certain.
“Regrettably, we must again take action to address the impact of this ongoing crisis on our business,” he said.
If it has in fact already happened,maybe she now needs to explain why it wasnt instead put into local business including tourism,im sure those business people would like to hear why they didnt get any.
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But why stop Aussies leaving if they agree to quarantine on return? I'd be out of here quicker than anything if I could leave.
In WA's case it is one of capacity. They testified in the Palmer trial than can manage 7 hotels associated with COVID quarantine. They currently have 6 operating. So long as they continue to decree everyone entering WA must go through the quarantine process, irrespective of their risk factors, that in turn limits the percentage available for international travellers.
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Then what do the 300 folk that are onshore meant to do?
Stats are only good if you understand a bit about them.
I do hope you will answer the 300 guys in a real bad time line position - I do not think they have any options but become illegal.
I know of only 2 cases that months ago got out and back in.
Many of the skilled visas were also granted long ago with PR and every right to enter.
Tourist visas (but that covers possibly many of Tom Hanks crew) is very low - I do not see the point of your post..
Stats are only good if you understand a bit about them.
I do hope you will answer the 300 guys in a real bad time line position - I do not think they have any options but become illegal.
I know of only 2 cases that months ago got out and back in.
Many of the skilled visas were also granted long ago with PR and every right to enter.
Tourist visas (but that covers possibly many of Tom Hanks crew) is very low - I do not see the point of your post..
This data includes the numbers of incoming Australians and non-Australians during the month of August, and also where they are from, and their citizenship and visa status, and provides comparisons with previous time periods.
It doesn't discuss anything else, including those who are already in Australia and who hold a valid visa. I am sorry you read the data as a slur on visa holders who might have been here for some years. It reflects negatively on your ability to comprehend a simple presentation of very basic information. The data does not touch on Tom Hanks or anything else. There are many forms of permanent and temporary visas, and this data does not differentiate between those types.
As for the 300 non-Australians whose visa will shortly expire, they will have to contemplate either getting another visa to stay, or a visa extension, or alternatively either leaving or staying illegally in Australia. Whilst flights are still leaving, there is no excuse for a temporary visa holder to stay illegally in Australia, and doing so will generally reflect negatively on that person in any future visa decisions. Of course I am sorry they are in a bad situation, but the pandemic has not changed this equation. Discussions about whether non-Australians with no income, visa, health cover or access to other support should stay in Australia is not what this data is about. There has never been a prohibition on non-Australians leaving Australia.
Again, this data only discusses the numbers and characteristics of people traveling to Australia during August.
If it has in fact already happened,maybe she now needs to explain why it wasnt instead put into local business including tourism,im sure those business people would like to hear why they didnt get any.
Because local business is not sexy and usually don't hired large unionised work forces.
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They won't forget this come election 2022.
Remember the labor and lib branch stacking? The sports rort? The water scandal which probably has implications in Mildura? What about Morrison going on a holiday at the peak of the bushfires?
The Murdoch narrative will have their say when we get there.
I hope that's sarcasm. 2022 in the media/election cycle is an eternity away.
Remember the labor and lib branch stacking? The sports rort? The water scandal which probably has implications in Mildura? What about Morrison going on a holiday at the peak of the bushfires?
The Murdoch narrative will have their say when we get there.
Remember the labor and lib branch stacking? The sports rort? The water scandal which probably has implications in Mildura? What about Morrison going on a holiday at the peak of the bushfires?
The Murdoch narrative will have their say when we get there.
Originally Posted by The ABS - August Arrivals
% Arrivals / % Oz Population
NSW 62.6 / 31.9
WA 13.9 / 10.3
QLD 13.3 / 20.1
VIC 0.5 / 26.1
SA 7.3 / 6.9
NT 2.5 / 1
ACT 0 / 1.7
TAS 0 / 2.1
NSW 62.6 / 31.9
WA 13.9 / 10.3
QLD 13.3 / 20.1
VIC 0.5 / 26.1
SA 7.3 / 6.9
NT 2.5 / 1
ACT 0 / 1.7
TAS 0 / 2.1
Originally Posted by The ABS - July arrivals
% Arrivals / % Oz Population
NSW 61.3 / 31.9
WA 15.9 / 10.3
QLD 16.2 / 20.1
VIC 0.2 / 26.1
SA 2.1 / 6.9
NT 4.3 / 1
ACT 0.1 / 1.7
TAS 0 / 2.1
NSW 61.3 / 31.9
WA 15.9 / 10.3
QLD 16.2 / 20.1
VIC 0.2 / 26.1
SA 2.1 / 6.9
NT 4.3 / 1
ACT 0.1 / 1.7
TAS 0 / 2.1
You love to quote numbers, yet you have shown a potential lack of understanding of the data / stats you quote. You still haven't responded to my request on your av life expectancy misunderstanding!
Back in late March WA had 164 icu beds, don't know if thats changed. What happens to the rest of the patients who need ICU beds if 124 are taken up by cv patients? Wasn't this the whole reason of preventing a large outbreak, to prevent the system from being overloaded, not just bed numbers, but staff as well?
Everyone seems to expect the Best Possible Outcome, economically and infection / deaths etc, that just isn't possible given that it appears to be a very difficult to model precisely.
The other noteworthy thing about those statistics is the percentage of arrivals based on state when viewed against the actual percentage of the Australian population of the state. Ana-StayAway "I'll do anything to protect Queenslanders, even if it means not pulling our weight to make sure I get re-elected" is doing her thing. WA has, at least, stepped up a bit from the previous months, yet everyone is quite happy to lock out NSW residents, even though they are carrying nearly 2/3rds of international arrivals, with the attendant risks that entails...
WA has about 500 ICU beds - public, private, plus surge capacity of 200 new beds (and 300 vents) which started to be added in March.
https://www.mediastatements.wa.gov.a...ical-care.aspx
That said, I understand the logistics of covering a large state, remote communities, and the difficulty getting clinical staff from interstate if WA gets swamped.
https://www.mediastatements.wa.gov.a...ical-care.aspx
That said, I understand the logistics of covering a large state, remote communities, and the difficulty getting clinical staff from interstate if WA gets swamped.