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Old 9th May 2021, 11:42
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Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist
I think we need one to make people “have some skin in the game”.

Maybe then we will see some leadership!
Imagine suggesting that we need a breakout and the accompanying fear, panic and misery to get you back to work sooner.

Sort your priorities out.
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Old 9th May 2021, 23:53
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https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...09-p57qah.html


Just as I said...

Wage growth must be crushed, House prices to the moon, edu-migration rentseekers must be able to continue to sell off the quality of our kids education...

International travel will return as rapidly as the vaccination rates make it possible after the federal election.
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Old 10th May 2021, 10:25
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Originally Posted by Tucknroll
Imagine suggesting that we need a breakout and the accompanying fear, panic and misery to get you back to work sooner.

Sort your priorities out.
Settle down mate, I was being facetious.
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Old 10th May 2021, 12:21
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Originally Posted by ruprecht
Yes it’s an interesting loop we find ourselves in.

We have zero covid so there is no rush to get vaccinated so the border opening gets further delayed so there is no covid so there is no rush to get vaccinated so the border opening gets further delayed so there is no covid so there is no rush to get vaccinated so the border opening gets further delayed so there is no covid so there is no rush to get vaccinated so the border opening gets further delayed so there is no covid so there is no rush to get vaccinated so the border opening gets further delayed so there is no covid so there is no rush to get vaccinated...

And that pretty much sums it all up.
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Old 10th May 2021, 21:06
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Well said OBNO.

Political games under the guise of health care and " Safety " for all australians.

We are effectively being held hostage by those desperately trying to look relevant. We have all been on this oneway path for a long time now with seemily no exit strategy.

With an election year approaching, this has nothing to do with the welfare of australians ( unless you are a celebrity, Tennis player, Cricketer or very wealthy ). Have an election tomorrow and watch things change border wise.

This ridiculous situation is a politicians olympics.

But hey, the economy is going gangbusters!!!!!!. Really?

These slugs cant even manage a vacine rollout. How the hell are they going to navigate a clear path forward for the country?

MCD

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Old 11th May 2021, 08:40
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https://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...0a9094cdab7071

This sounds positive.... not!!!!
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Old 11th May 2021, 10:21
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Yet another failure of the Submarine with fly screens known as Hotel Quarantine. But Scomo said it’s 99.99% effective? Yeah right 99.8% of returned travellers never had it in the fist place. With the latest leak in Adelaides ****ty system, if you look at all positive returned travellers this ****show is now approaching a 5% leak rate, completely unacceptable. SA and WA now have the worst leak rate in hotel quarantine per positive cases, quite frankly I would now banish them from the hotel quarantine system full stop. When will we actually get the Feds to actually do something and build quarantine centres as recommended 1 year ago? Let’s face it SA and WA have been the main culprits in shutting borders down but it’s now obvious why…they can’t handle anything properly…..bumpkins….and don’t bag me I’ve lived in both WA and SA, just their governments are crap atm.
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Old 11th May 2021, 10:31
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So you’re overseas and you don’t have covid. You return to Australia covid-free for hotel quarantine that YOU PAY FOR. You then spend two weeks sitting in a ****ty hotel room where you catch covid from some random bloke next door.

F*ck that.
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Old 11th May 2021, 10:57
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I’m guessing now 2023???


https://www.news.com.au/finance/econ...5c63354da71758
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Old 11th May 2021, 12:19
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So, Australia goes full circle and becomes a prisoner's island.

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Old 11th May 2021, 12:27
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Originally Posted by ruprecht
So you’re overseas and you don’t have covid. You return to Australia covid-free for hotel quarantine that YOU PAY FOR. You then spend two weeks sitting in a ****ty hotel room where you catch covid from some random bloke next door.

F*ck that.
I had the same discussion with my wife tonight. I reckon things are at the stage where I'd be happier running around the US with two doses of Pfizer in my arm than I would be sitting unvaccinated in an Australian quarantine hotel.
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Old 11th May 2021, 16:49
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Originally Posted by DirectAnywhere
I had the same discussion with my wife tonight. I reckon things are at the stage where I'd be happier running around the US with two doses of Pfizer in my arm than I would be sitting unvaccinated in an Australian quarantine hotel.
So you finally took the red pill and saw the light?
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Old 12th May 2021, 00:45
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Originally Posted by havick
So you finally took the red pill and saw the light?
I don’t know what that means, but maybe? Generally my wife tells me what colour the pill is and what I should be seeing so I just go with that.
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Old 12th May 2021, 01:13
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“Taking the red pill” is a term used by some to describe when you stop believing “mainstream opinion” and start believing “the secret truth”. Widely used by conspiracy theorists.

However in relation to the above post it wouldn’t be applicable, as it is mainstream scientific opinion that vaccines provide safety from viral illnesses. So wanting to be vaccinated to protect against Covid would be taking the “blue pill” (remaining with mainstream thought), whereas anti vaxxers will say they took the “red pill” when they realised the “truth” about vaccines.
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Old 12th May 2021, 01:36
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Originally Posted by dr dre
“Taking the red pill” is a term used by some to describe when you stop believing “mainstream opinion” and start believing “the secret truth”. Widely used by conspiracy theorists.

However in relation to the above post it wouldn’t be applicable, as it is mainstream scientific opinion that vaccines provide safety from viral illnesses. So wanting to be vaccinated to protect against Covid would be taking the “blue pill” (remaining with mainstream thought), whereas anti vaxxers will say they took the “red pill” when they realised the “truth” about vaccines.
I'm now over 50. Taking the "blue pill" means something else again!!!
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Old 12th May 2021, 04:15
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Originally Posted by dr dre
“Taking the red pill” is a term used by some to describe when you stop believing “mainstream opinion” and start believing “the secret truth”. Widely used by conspiracy theorists.

However in relation to the above post it wouldn’t be applicable, as it is mainstream scientific opinion that vaccines provide safety from viral illnesses. So wanting to be vaccinated to protect against Covid would be taking the “blue pill” (remaining with mainstream thought), whereas anti vaxxers will say they took the “red pill” when they realised the “truth” about vaccines.
Think you’re misinterpreting my point.

I’m vaccinated.

My point was all the data and cases loads and deaths you’re reading about in the USA is massively inflated.

I’ve witnessed first hand in the US car crash victims being chalked up as Covid death even though Covid had zero to do with it, the deceased wasn’t even tested for it.

Secondly I personally know of more than a few people that we positive for Covid, took two weeks off, and then tested positive another 9-10 times after the two weeks. All the subsequent positive tests (from the same person!), counted as new Covid cases here in the US.

The above is the norm, not the exception.
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Old 12th May 2021, 04:55
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Think Costco has Tin Foil on sale today
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Old 12th May 2021, 10:12
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Originally Posted by havick
Think you’re misinterpreting my point.

I’m vaccinated.


I’ve witnessed first hand in the US car crash victims being chalked up as Covid death even though Covid had zero to do with it, the deceased wasn’t even tested for it.

Secondly I personally know of more than a few people that we positive for Covid, took two weeks off, and then tested positive another 9-10 times after the two weeks. All the subsequent positive tests (from the same person!), counted as new Covid cases here in the US.

The above is the norm, not the exception.
***Cough*** Bull**** ***Cough***
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Old 12th May 2021, 10:53
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***Cough*** Bull**** ***Cough***
What he said.
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Old 12th May 2021, 12:14
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I’ve witnessed first hand in the US car crash victims being chalked up as Covid death even though Covid had zero to do with it, the deceased wasn’t even tested for it
Can you elaborate on the details of this?
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