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Old 22nd Oct 2021, 02:38
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And are they still not hiring Airnorth pilots?
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Old 22nd Oct 2021, 02:47
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Originally Posted by BravoSierraLima View Post
I heard $110k for FO, $160k for captain. Overtime starts at 55 hours per roster at $180/hr for FOs. Hiring type rated (and vaccinated) crew into Darwin, Townsville and Adelaide. Rumours persist of a Brisbane E jet base soon but being a popular base there'll be a wait for it. Third hand info, being a rumour forum.
Just an honest Q: the E jet wasn't the most common type in Oz, where are Alliance finding all these pilots with E jet ratings magically appearing on their Oz licences?
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Old 22nd Oct 2021, 03:07
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AirNorth appear from the outside to have enough E jet pilots to operate that part of their schedule, so it would seem like the "gentlemen's agreement" is being honoured. I suppose a big question those crews might ask themselves is: should you jump to Alliance when the Qantas flying is currently a 3 year deal, especially if you don't want to move away from Darwin at the end of it? Lots of variables for an individual of course.

I probably should have been clearer, Alliance are advertising for type rated & vaccinated crew on their website. No idea if they're getting any yet. Lots of younger Australians in the USA flying E jets who might be ready to come home, former VA crews or miscellaneous others with the requirements and work rights for Australia.
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Old 22nd Oct 2021, 14:01
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Originally Posted by jdmg View Post
Does anyone know what the Salary for a FO is at Alliance?
Not enough! I hear Cobham pays their Ejet pilots substantially more.
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Old 23rd Oct 2021, 12:12
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Originally Posted by smiling monkey View Post
Not enough! I hear Cobham pays their Ejet pilots substantially more.
$110-120K for FO depending on years of service and $185k for Capt.
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Old 24th Oct 2021, 05:18
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Originally Posted by BravoSierraLima View Post
AirNorth appear from the outside to have enough E jet pilots to operate that part of their schedule, so it would seem like the "gentlemen's agreement" is being honoured. I suppose a big question those crews might ask themselves is: should you jump to Alliance when the Qantas flying is currently a 3 year deal, especially if you don't want to move away from Darwin at the end of it? Lots of variables for an individual of course.

I probably should have been clearer, Alliance are advertising for type rated & vaccinated crew on their website. No idea if they're getting any yet. Lots of younger Australians in the USA flying E jets who might be ready to come home, former VA crews or miscellaneous others with the requirements and work rights for Australia.
so, Alliance is getting 32 E190 for a 3 years contract ? 😲
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Old 24th Oct 2021, 08:36
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In my opinion, Alliance are getting 32 (so far) E190 to replace their Fokker fleet in the longer run. The revenue from flying 12 or so aircraft on QF routes for 3 or so years would be swallowed faster than the first beer after a 10 sector mail run in the wet season. The E190s purchased are 14ish years old, for comparison the youngest B717 is 15 years old. QF are aiming to place firm orders for replacement regional/mainline narrowbody fleets within 9 months, for deliveries starting in 2 years time...once they get what they can accept out of the pilot groups involved, of course. But both Alliance and QF would be keeping options up their sleeve, the 3 year deal is flexible and can be varied without penalty, according to QF management (yeah, I know).
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Old 24th Oct 2021, 13:46
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so, Alliance is getting 32 E190 for a 3 years contract ? 😲
No, see above.

Only twelve - fourteen “announced” for QF flying.

https://australianaviation.com.au/20...nce-e190-deal/
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Old 25th Oct 2021, 01:12
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Originally Posted by Zhoottoo View Post
REX annual results out today and surely it will be a train wreck. The Australian speculating Bain circling to pick up the PAG mess that was never ever going to fly. My money is on Alliance after their record earnings. Makes perfect sense - especially as a low cost capacity provider to VA - and they sure love buying stuff!!The big question among those who will be watching is whether its major shareholder, PAG, continues to support Rex and whether the National Party will also stand behind the national carrier.

Others wonder whether Bain Capital may swoop after last year acquiring Virgin Australia out of voluntary administration......
Only possibility I could see Bain getting involved in PAG's REX is that if REX's jet division files liquidation. One of the few things that are valuable would likely be airport slots, that's pretty much it.

777's Bonza may be a dark horse for RexJet but extremely unlikely.

I don't think Bain would be interested in picking up the leases of the former VA 738s at REX considering it was reported at least half of that fleet were the least reliable of the 738s when they were in the VA Mk1 fleet.
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Old 25th Oct 2021, 14:09
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Originally Posted by BravoSierraLima View Post
I heard $110k for FO, $160k for captain. Overtime starts at 55 hours per roster at $180/hr for FOs. Hiring type rated (and vaccinated) crew into Darwin, Townsville and Adelaide. Rumours persist of a Brisbane E jet base soon but being a popular base there'll be a wait for it. Third hand info, being a rumour forum.
Thanks for the info. Real helpful!
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Old 25th Oct 2021, 14:11
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Originally Posted by itchy_feet View Post
$110-120K for FO depending on years of service and $185k for Capt.
thanks! I'll look into that.
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Old 25th Oct 2021, 22:11
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Rex has no slots for its 73 if I’ve read correctly they’re relying on unused international. SAAB slots are not transferable. Bonza have already stated they’re not flying into Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane giving it being another LCC only way they could fly into those places would be if they joined with Bain.
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Old 6th Nov 2021, 06:48
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Where did the Bravo EBA disappear to?
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Old 8th Nov 2021, 01:39
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Bonza have already stated they’re not flying into Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane
Slight correction. Bonza won't fly between Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane. They are not avoiding the three biggest population centres, they're just not competing on the triangle routes.

Hervey Bay to MEL or SYD would be well within their scope.
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