Qantas Group Pilots Giving Up Entitlements
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There’s no extra allowances to claim for meals for pilots In QF only cabin crew, maybe that’s the tree your trying to bark up?
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Are some pilots who are stood down more entitled to vent than others, duck? What kinda support so you want? I'm also stood down on zero pay, and I do work for QF. What's the problem?
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My understanding was this is happening on the West coast and it was said that crew are either not being provided meals or are being provided ‘not to standard meals’ and are not claiming allowances when they are entitled too. As stated my concern is if this is occurring we ALL lose out in the end and i think a healthy discussion would be worthwhile on this platform.
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When the company decided to remove crew meals, they would have looked at the EBA allowance costs and factored that into the decision. Claiming a lunch allowance won't make the company go broke, nor is it going to change the perception of any employment group. Claim the allowance and look after your family. Or if you want to be noble, spend the allowance at a local business/cafe and help the local economy.
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Ok! Very powerful words Thanks.
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You might not have noticed, but although reduced, there are plenty of flights operating in EU & USA right now.
Not sure what your news source is but here in the US, data from airlines and the TSA indicate passenger numbers are presently 4% compared to this time last year.
Flights are outstripping passenger demand because of some outdated and absurd Government regulations that require certain flights to continue regardless of passenger numbers.
These flights will end when the CARES stimulus runs out in October and the industry will be furloughing over one third of pilots in round one. More furloughs will follow and the industry is not making these moves assuming things turn around quickly.
Australia has done very well during these trying times but I would be very careful about dropping your guard and letting this virus take hold in the way it has here in the US or Europe.
The media frenzy will end soon, as public is sick & tired of the hype & some so called expert being dragged out, that no one has ever heard of.
The results of this pandemic have nothing to do with the media. Shutdowns have occurred globally because Governments act based upon prudent expert advice, not media hype.
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anyway - I would hope if there is any basis to this rumour there’d be a reciprocal arrangement from management and executives (genuine and enduring reductions in incentives, bonuses etc), or, make such an arrangement with a time constraint and/or dependant on company/group performance. Ie. take the hit, and come back and review each 6months. But even if this is done, there is risk that the company will make the relative department fight for said condition/s back when the grass starts growing again.
G’day all, apologise for all the bad remarks etc. Posts have been deleted however that means nothing.
I was having a bad day yesterday, I should have never stuck my nose into this discussion. We all make mistakes particularly when we are under stress.
Very difficult times now, however I’m sure I will get through it. Apologies and all the best.
I was having a bad day yesterday, I should have never stuck my nose into this discussion. We all make mistakes particularly when we are under stress.
Very difficult times now, however I’m sure I will get through it. Apologies and all the best.
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G’day all, apologise for all the bad remarks etc. Posts have been deleted however that means nothing.
I was having a bad day yesterday, I should have never stuck my nose into this discussion. We all make mistakes particularly when we are under stress.
Very difficult times now, however I’m sure I will get through it. Apologies and all the best.
I was having a bad day yesterday, I should have never stuck my nose into this discussion. We all make mistakes particularly when we are under stress.
Very difficult times now, however I’m sure I will get through it. Apologies and all the best.
We’re all having good days and bad days at the moment. Keep your head up, we’re all in it together.
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G’day all, apologise for all the bad remarks etc. Posts have been deleted however that means nothing.
I was having a bad day yesterday, I should have never stuck my nose into this discussion. We all make mistakes particularly when we are under stress.
Very difficult times now, however I’m sure I will get through it. Apologies and all the best.
I was having a bad day yesterday, I should have never stuck my nose into this discussion. We all make mistakes particularly when we are under stress.
Very difficult times now, however I’m sure I will get through it. Apologies and all the best.
There’s a lot of pilots reading these posts that have also been stood down with an uncertain future, good pilots and good people (and a few dickheads too I’d suspect). Also many people who have borrowed a squillion dollars to pay for training that can’t justify the cost now due to low chance of employment.
Aviation is fickle as we all know, but this one is different - you can’t just go overseas and get work.
Covid isn’t any pilot’s fault - so show humility towards your fellow pilot.
You do however, have a responsibility to be professional and remain competent. If we all do this, we’ll be at a better standing towards the public, the government and our employers. This will give your career and the industry the best fighting chance to recover.
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Good on you duck. Nothing lasts forever. Find something, anything (but unhealthy habits) to fill your time. I know bills have to be paid, and I’m not sure what the answers are there. Just play the cards as they are and have the tough convos with people to see how they can help. You’re certainly not alone, that’s a certainty!
G’day all, apologise for all the bad remarks etc. Posts have been deleted however that means nothing.
I was having a bad day yesterday, I should have never stuck my nose into this discussion. We all make mistakes particularly when we are under stress.
Very difficult times now, however I’m sure I will get through it. Apologies and all the best.
I was having a bad day yesterday, I should have never stuck my nose into this discussion. We all make mistakes particularly when we are under stress.
Very difficult times now, however I’m sure I will get through it. Apologies and all the best.
I’m also stood down, and have good days and bad - we’re all in it together.
Stay safe.
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f1yhigh: An airline will always use the aircraft with the lowest trip cost commensurate with the payload/range required.