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Old 12th May 2020, 02:25
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Originally Posted by chookcooker
no no no, dig up stupid
HAHAHA, LOVE IT!!!

As a 10 year FO with Virgin I can tell you that Iíve never made 190k. Iíd need to work 70% of my days off to bank that kind of scratch.
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Old 12th May 2020, 02:26
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okay Telfer86 how much do you earn?
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Old 12th May 2020, 02:46
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Originally Posted by Telfer86
Selective quoting of data is easy
I agree.

however:

ď60 hrs/rp
10.5 rp/yr
$300k/yr capt NB average
$190k/yr FO NB averageĒ

would indicate you somehow struggle with it Dopey
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Old 12th May 2020, 02:48
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Originally Posted by Telfer86
Whoo Hoo Whoo Hoo

https://www.rtbuvicloco.com.au/wp-co...-certified.pdf

& from the Age stating Metro train drivers average $102K & Vline $120 K , hardly epic numbers

Selective quoting of data is easy & quoting what the driver of the longest iron ore train , at the most wealthy iron ore company , driving
the most technically complex train , whilst interesting doesn't reflect the average train driver

Seems like we have clarified the earnings of diesel fitters are

What did the ten year Virgin SO earn ? (I will just say higher or lower)
QR suburban train drivers reported as earning $220k+ lots of overtime, as normal week is very short. Although there's a supposed shortage of train drivers, you have to know someone, promise to give your "1st child" to the union & do a long training course, which should take a few hours but takes 12 months or more on full pay, I mean, it's much more complicated that being a pilot, there's a brake & an accelerator (no indicators & that's it)
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Originally Posted by Telfer86
Whoo Hoo Whoo Hoo

https://www.rtbuvicloco.com.au/wp-co...-certified.pdf

& from the Age stating Metro train drivers average $102K & Vline $120 K , hardly epic numbers

Selective quoting of data is easy & quoting what the driver of the longest iron ore train , at the most wealthy iron ore company , driving
the most technically complex train , whilst interesting doesn't reflect the average train driver

Seems like we have clarified the earnings of diesel fitters are

What did the ten year Virgin SO earn ? (I will just say higher or lower)

Absolutely BS the going rate for a Diesel fitter is $85 an hour. I have several in my family and can assure you they are beyond $200K hence my reference to a diesel fitter

Your yet to divulge how large you pay is - so we can decide if its too grandiose.




or are you another frustrated travel agent
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Old 12th May 2020, 06:44
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You guys see shadows everywhere , somebody has a different opinion to you & you think it is appropriate to threaten & belittle them
Except that your figures on salaries are impossible and you post a reference to the document they came from without even reading it!!! Go away and figure out what the Hourly Rate is then see how short of your 300K figure you are.



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Old 12th May 2020, 07:58
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Originally Posted by Telfer86
Oh goodness me a veiled threat by an anonymous internet poster

You guys see shadows everywhere , somebody has a different opinion to you

& you think it is appropriate to threaten & belittle them

What class what sophistication you display

I'm quite ambivalent towards airline pilots if you must know ; think of them like I might think about a radiographer or crane driver , garden variety librarian etc & that sums to
not a whole lot

Just present accurate data & stop telling these fantastic stories about the earnings of others
& then shrieking so defensively when accurate information re; Virgin earnings is revealed
I'm pretty sure a Radiographer, Crane Driver or Librarian doesn't carry the responsibility for hundreds of lives in their hands every day that they go to work!
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Old 12th May 2020, 08:13
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Youíre not very clever Telfer. When would a librarian have sole control and responsibility of an asset worth potentially upwards of 500million Australian dollars hurtling through the atmosphere at 86% the speed of sound 10 kilometres above the earths surface with 500 lives onboard? A crane driver would have more responsibility than a librarian, but still. You may not like us and believe all we do is push the big red button, but get a grip. Youíre showing how ignorant you are. Iíd stop it if I had been so comprehensively rebuked as you, but I guess you think we are too thick to realise how stupid you are. We arenít.

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Old 12th May 2020, 08:39
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it ain't rocket science to work out an average & that will be North of 239/155, I would be confident I am on the mark
Why are you confident? You have the document it spells out in black and white what the hourly rate is, and the legal maximum flight hours and you are still not even close.
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Old 12th May 2020, 08:42
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I don't need to Telfor. Just telling you how it actually is, as its obvious you don't really understand much. But as you seem to be a garden variety librarian, I'm glad you're able to blow yourself.
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Old 12th May 2020, 17:08
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Originally Posted by Paragraph377
Fuel costs are always the most expensive cost component of an airline, followed by labor.
Labor costs surpassed fuel as global airlines' biggest single expense in 2016, at 22 percent of costs against just under 21 percent for fuel. That is expected to jump this year to 30.9 percent versus 20.5 percent for fuel.Feb 14, 2018. Reuters
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Old 12th May 2020, 22:14
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Originally Posted by A6Edriver
Labor costs surpassed fuel as global airlines' biggest single expense in 2016, at 22 percent of costs against just under 21 percent for fuel. That is expected to jump this year to 30.9 percent versus 20.5 percent for fuel.Feb 14, 2018. Reuters
The Qantas Group, for example, has 30,000 staff of which about 3000 are pilots. Their cost relative to the cost of fuel and other expenses has remained relatively constant for many years. What has grown is the number of 'managers' and 'directors' on salaries equivalent to say, a First Officer and it's here that labor costs have grown significantly.
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Old 12th May 2020, 22:16
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Originally Posted by A6Edriver
Labor costs surpassed fuel as global airlines' biggest single expense in 2016, at 22 percent of costs against just under 21 percent for fuel. That is expected to jump this year to 30.9 percent versus 20.5 percent for fuel.Feb 14, 2018. Reuters
Good data. And oops, I fu#ked up by a percent or two. What was the result for 2017, 18,19? I imagine 2020, year if the COVID, will be interesting as well considering labor and fuel costs will be down somewhat.
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Old 13th May 2020, 06:30
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Originally Posted by SandyPalms
Youíre not very clever Telfer. When would a librarian have sole control and responsibility of an asset worth potentially upwards of 500million Australian dollars hurtling through the atmosphere at 86% the speed of sound 10 kilometres above the earths surface with 500 lives onboard? A crane driver would have more responsibility than a librarian, but still. You may not like us and believe all we do is push the big red button, but get a grip. Youíre showing how ignorant you are. Iíd stop it if I had been so comprehensively rebuked as you, but I guess you think we are too thick to realise how stupid you are. We arenít.
Really Sandy?

You really think about that every time you report for duty do you? Hurtling through the atmosphere at 86% of the speed of sound 10ks up...................asset worth whatever, 500 lives in your hands blah blah blah!

More akin to will I choose the chicken or beef today? And a cup of Twinings Earl Grey to go with it!

And btw, the only life you're thinking about is your own. The rest looks after itself!

i can't believe the amount of garbage that's wheeled out on this site. Good for some popcorn and a laugh though!
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Originally Posted by Half Baked
Really Sandy?

You really think about that every time you report for duty do you? Hurtling through the atmosphere at 86% of the speed of sound 10ks up...................asset worth whatever, 500 lives in your hands blah blah blah!

More akin to will I choose the chicken or beef today? And a cup of Twinings Earl Grey to go with it!

And btw, the only life you're thinking about is your own. The rest looks after itself!

i can't believe the amount of garbage that's wheeled out on this site. Good for some popcorn and a laugh though!
Well at least your pseudonym is accurate.
Ever had command responsibility ?
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Old 13th May 2020, 08:15
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latest news - qld govt to bid on VA
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Old 13th May 2020, 08:28
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The QLD government could be setting a dangerous precedent here, I understand the importance in preserving jobs, but, buying an airline that wont make money for a few yrs to come. What happens if other private company's struggle.
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Old 13th May 2020, 08:44
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Wasn't PS head of QLD rail? and people think the link with John Sharp and the Nationals is on the nose.
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Old 13th May 2020, 08:49
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Don't have a lot of faith in a State Govt. that can't even remember to renew their Insurance policies...
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[QUOTE=George Glass;10781062]Well at least your pseudonym is accurate.
Ever had command responsibility ?[/QP

Ahhhhh George!

If only you knew! But continue to believe in your over inflated sense of importance and marvellous abilities by all means.

My job is not The one in question here. It actually keeps people on the coal face employed.
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