VA pilots worried about employment 2021

[Ollie Onion]

They haven’t actually made the cuts to domestic yet....... expecting the actual cuts over the next couple of days based on booking profiles

[Arthur D]

My guess he is looking for schadenfreude.

[snakeslugger]

Pretty sure I know who he is and would you believe, was once a good guy? Retirement is not treating him well obviously and has become a total pest!

[thefeatheredone]

[QUOTE=snakeslugger;10718282]Pretty sure I know who he is and would you believe, was once a good guy? Retirement is not treating him well obviously and has become a total pest![/QUOTE

no... wouldn’t believe it for a second.

[Paragraph377]

Wow. What disappoints me is that all I have posted is financial status updates sanctioned by approved sources and I’ve mentioned how successive Executive level management decisions have led to this point. Ok, it’s not happy news but it is more or less fact. In turn the vitriol and venom directed at me is quite disturbing. Save it for Godfrey, Borghetti et al. On top of that, successive disgraceful comments between 737/777/330 and TT 320 pilots is beyond belief. You guys/girls don’t like me, fine, but take a look in your own backyard.
Best of luck to all the pilots.

[wondrousbitofrough]

Bit of friendly advice, stop playing the victim when all you've done is tried to stir the pot. Your comments, your input are all unnecessary and unwanted. I agree some of the comments directed at you have been out of order, but please, just stop. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Paragraph377

Wow. What disappoints me is that all I have posted is financial status updates sanctioned by approved sources and I’ve mentioned how successive Executive level management decisions have led to this point. Ok, it’s not happy news but it is more or less fact. In turn the vitriol and venom directed at me is quite disturbing. Save it for Godfrey, Borghetti et al. On top of that, successive disgraceful comments between 737/777/330 and TT 320 pilots is beyond belief. You guys/girls don’t like me, fine, but take a look in your own backyard.
Best of luck to all the pilots.

[Colonel_Klink]

Unfortunately all the announcements to date will not have taken into account what the Tasmanian government have just announced - everyone travelling there essentially has to go into two weeks quarantine. I fear as though it’s not long now until every state does the same thing and then there won’t be a need for any domestic airline travel.

[Led Zeppelin]

The announcement yesterday of a 50% cut to domestic services and an effective grounding of 53 aircraft probably goes close to match what Qantas has done today. The Tasmanian announcement will adversely affect these numbers, but not by huge amounts in an overall context. Hopefully, Scurrah's plan will keep VA afloat into the future, albeit in a reduced size operation.

[Foxxster]

Originally Posted by Led Zeppelin

The announcement yesterday of a 50% cut to domestic services and an effective grounding of 53 aircraft probably goes close to match what Qantas has done today. The Tasmanian announcement will adversely affect these numbers, but not by huge amounts in an overall context. Hopefully, Scurrah's plan will keep VA afloat into the future, albeit in a reduced size operation.

unfortunately this is out of his control.

what happens next is solely dependent on case numbers.

and it is case numbers that drive government policy responses and then business responses.

we can see what the next steps will be if they keep increasing at the same multiple they have been historically.

next is closure of all shops, cafes, restaurants.

then compulsory quarantine of everyone in high case number areas. Sydney, Melbourne etc but probably not country areas.

these are likely to occur in around two weeks and four weeks . Again we have other countries experience to see this is inevitable. Singapore, China, Italy, Spain etc. and just today, it appears London will be locked down from this weekend. It IS going to happen here - If our case numbers do not respond to the measures taken on Sunday re crowds over 500, further extensive restrictions on inbound international passengers etc. (there will be a lag of about a week to allow for those infected to develop symptoms then get test results).

So if by the middle of next week the 20% daily growth rate hasn’t really started to drop for several consecutive days we will get the next stages.

the UK has around 2,600 cases but 68m population. For us to be as bad per capita, we would need around 950 cases. We have 636, doubling every 5 days. Perhaps my estimate of two weeks and four weeks are overly optimistic as they are reported to be considering locking down London already.

both these measures but obviously the second will further cut domestic operations, in fact ground them altogether. Just as the international routes are grounded now.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[Denied Justice]

If what Foxxster says comes true, then that is a world of pain for QF and even more so for VA.

[galdian]

Will be interesting to see if history is kind or harsh regards how this was all handled - peeling the bandaid off rather than ripping it off?

We have extended the time greatly in an effort to minimise some deaths, the economic consequences will be felt for a far greater time and the (eventual) economic recovery will take far longer to achieve because of these actions.

In spite of all actions to date some people are still catching the disease, many probably carriers and some people are dying.
All for which is generally accepted to be a flu type virus with flu like symptoms that most people get over - as they do the flu.

Maybe mute as the direction of the world response has been established - thanks globalisation!
For conspiracy theorists the effect on the world probably exceeds 9/11.

[Double_Clutch]

I see QF senior management are leading by example - 100% pay hit until June 30

Will VA management show the same leadership and help the company/staff?

[Berealgetreal]

Posted in another thread.

Meanwhile in todays AustralianQantas chief executive Alan Joyce has warned Scott Morrison not to nationalise airline competitor Virgin Australia, saying he cannot pick winners and losers.

“That would be completely unfair. We would be competing against the federal government,” Mr Joyce told Sky News on Friday morning.

Whats with this bloke? Can’t help himself.

Theres something wrong in your head if you
secretly hope 10,000 people out of a job. This bloke says it in the media.

[Ragnor]

Originally Posted by Berealgetreal

Posted in another thread.



Whats with this bloke? Can’t help himself.

Theres something wrong in your head if you
secretly hope 10,000 people out of a job. This bloke says it in the media.

If VA get the special treatment so should we. Current position that VA is in is due to its own mismanagement. I don’t want to see anyone loose their job, needs to be a level playing field.

[cloudsurfng]

I dont think that’s what alan meant Berealgetreal. Neither should be nationalised. The whole industry needs support I think was what he was getting at.

fingers crossed for everyone

[Ragnor]

I Misunderstood, cheers

[Berealgetreal]

First port of call for the tax payer former Group CEO and the Board. Dividends and salaries to be repaid.

[PoppaJo]

They should go after any defined benefits/incentive/deferred super or anything that is still being paid out to JB and anyone associated with the last 10 years in a C line role.

There should not be single cent paid out to these people.

[sumtingwong]

Originally Posted by PoppaJo

They should go after any defined benefits/incentive/deferred super or anything that is still being paid out to JB and anyone associated with the last 10 years in a C line role.

There should not be single cent paid out to these people.

The only possible people who would disagree with that Poppa, would be the incompetents who are receiving largess from a problem they created.

[Foxxster]

ScoMo now advising against all DOMESTIC travel. You know what comes next. If not, here is a hint.

meanwhile in California.

Gov. Gavin Newsom on Thursday ordered all Californians to stay at home, marking the first mandatory restrictions placed on the lives of all 40 million residents in the state’s fight against the novel coronavirus.
The governor’s order comes at a critical time in California, where 19 people have died and an additional 958 have tested positive for the disease. Newsom asked Californians to practice social distancing when leaving their homes to shop for groceries, pick up prescriptions, see their doctors or perform other “necessary activities.”

It follows an order from Los Angeles County and city officials issued Thursday that requires all indoor malls, shopping centers, playgrounds and non-essential retail businesses to close and prohibits gathering in enclosed spaces of more than 10 people.