How much must the airlines be praying for this?
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How much must the airlines be praying for this?
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"At this stage, they're looking at meeting the planes that come directly from Wuhan into Australia," Dr Young said.
"There are three flights a week flying to Sydney airport and they're looking at processes to meet those planes.
"There are three flights a week flying to Sydney airport and they're looking at processes to meet those planes.
A new direct flight is just about to start up from Wuhan to London Gatwick - Oh great so we could cope it too.........
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so it’s a flu like virus that causes pneumonia type symptoms, has killed in 3/222 known cases, originates in a northern hemisphere (winter - flu season) city and is thought to come from a fish market??
It also has fairly limited human-human transmission..
I’ll keep an eye out..thanks for the heads up
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Look- 'Bridget' from Sports Marketing/& Minister Responsible for defending Border Quarantine- 'shall' be all over this Sucker.........
Going, 'really' well in the job- Apparently!!!!
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Going, 'really' well in the job- Apparently!!!!
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Won’t do Alan’s bonus much good if we have a repeat SARS type outbreak. That’s why you don’t invest in high risk businesses that are vulnerable to overnight challenges from potential things such as SARS/disease, aircraft accidents, wars (causing massive spikes in oil price).
so it’s a flu like virus that causes pneumonia type symptoms, has killed in 3/222 known cases, originates in a northern hemisphere (winter - flu season) city and is thought to come from a fish market??
It also has fairly limited human-human transmission..
I’ll keep an eye out..thanks for the heads up
It also has fairly limited human-human transmission..
I’ll keep an eye out..thanks for the heads up
The UK is expected to begin monitoring flights arriving from China, as part of a series of precautionary measures after the spread of a new coronavirus.
The measures, set to be announced later, will apply to flights from Wuhan to London
According to government sources, Public Health England will upgrade the risk to the UK population
Chinese authorities have advised people to stop travel into and out of Wuhan, the city at the heart of the outbreak.
They also admitted the country is now at the "most critical stage" of prevention and control.
Let us hope the risk remains Low....
Five Hundred confirmed cases, 1300 estimated. 17 dead, 3.4% mortality rate. Health care workers are now infected, proving human to human transmission. Now wouldn't be a good time to panic. The time for that was last week.
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What we need to know is rho - the transmission ratio and the cfr - case fatality rate. The cfr may be 3% now which is bad enough, but consider that is with best medical care. If this thing infects millions then medical facilities are overwhelmed. We then have what’s called a “slate wiper” no need to worry about population pressure on resources for a long time.
Five Hundred confirmed cases, 1300 estimated. 17 dead, 3.4% mortality rate. Health care workers are now infected, proving human to human transmission. Now wouldn't be a good time to panic. The time for that was last week.
What we need to know is rho - the transmission ratio and the cfr - case fatality rate. The cfr may be 3% now which is bad enough, but consider that is with best medical care. If this thing infects millions then medical facilities are overwhelmed. We then have what’s called a “slate wiper” no need to worry about population pressure on resources for a long time.
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Well it always was going to be a matter of time before another novel virus comes along; air travel truly does bring the world closer.
Many people sweat the big stuff in life, but it’s the microscopic that can end the lives of large numbers.
Many people sweat the big stuff in life, but it’s the microscopic that can end the lives of large numbers.
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Worst pandemic of the last 100 years came out of the West actually (the 1918-20 “Spanish Flu”)
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That is a very interesting and inconvenient point.
If one considers the data of outbreaks of diseases eradicated in western countries, there is a common element: Excessive immigration.
Australia has experienced outbreaks of diseases eradicated years ago. The WHO report details some uncomfortable reality for proponents of mass immigration.
Bring in GDP serfs from third world countries where due to impoverishment medical science is not as advanced and measles, whooping cough and the like will gain a foothold...again.
The concern is the ability of western health systems to revisit protocols long since disbanded.
If one considers the data of outbreaks of diseases eradicated in western countries, there is a common element: Excessive immigration.
Australia has experienced outbreaks of diseases eradicated years ago. The WHO report details some uncomfortable reality for proponents of mass immigration.
Bring in GDP serfs from third world countries where due to impoverishment medical science is not as advanced and measles, whooping cough and the like will gain a foothold...again.
The concern is the ability of western health systems to revisit protocols long since disbanded.
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Paragraph377, I am quite certain that Alan’s bonus is locked in and not affected by circumstances beyond his control. Airline management gained a substantial industrial upper hand during the last major events affecting the industry, I’m sure they are buzzing with excitement once again at the thought of using a crisis to their advantage.
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Paragraph377, I am quite certain that Alan’s bonus is locked in and not affected by circumstances beyond his control. Airline management gained a substantial industrial upper hand during the last major events affecting the industry, I’m sure they are buzzing with excitement once again at the thought of using a crisis to their advantage.
Really? Let’s not get too carried away I don’t think they’re excited at all at the prospect of a global pandemic that will annihilate air travel for years.
Personally the response from the company seems pretty good so far. The information they’ve put out has been more useful to me than anything I’ve seen from the government or ABC or anyone else.
We’re lucky the health system infectious disease departments are more or less free to do what they want. From the top it looks like Sweet FA, the Wuhan flight yesterday should not have landed and if the spread gets much worse one would hope they block all flights from China. They’ve basically shut the country down themselves.
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What we need to know is rho - the transmission ratio and the cfr - case fatality rate. The cfr may be 3% now which is bad enough, but consider that is with best medical care. If this thing infects millions then medical facilities are overwhelmed. We then have what’s called a “slate wiper” no need to worry about population pressure on resources for a long time.
What we need to know is rho - the transmission ratio and the cfr - case fatality rate. The cfr may be 3% now which is bad enough, but consider that is with best medical care. If this thing infects millions then medical facilities are overwhelmed. We then have what’s called a “slate wiper” no need to worry about population pressure on resources for a long time.
On a bright note those fine folks at the University of Queensland think they have a novel protein clamp scheme which might allow producing a vaccine within six months.
Hope you are right about the vaccine Austral. CSL can produce it. The immediate problem is that the cfr currently assumes excellent medical treatment. However this thing is possibly going to overwhelm our medical facilities and on a bad note, it’s infecting hospital staff.
‘The question then becomes one of sustaining our infrastructure until a vaccine or time and natural immunity puts an end to the pandemic.
I would expect triage facilities will be needed soon if we haven’t stopped it at the border. Also cancellation of gatherings, etc. You will know it’s serious when the carefully crafted daily ministerial briefings start being published. My wife and I, as old farts and thousands like us, would be lucky to survive this thing without expert medical care which is not going to be available.
I will be talking to a public health acquaintance later this week and if there is good news I’ll gladly share it.
‘The question then becomes one of sustaining our infrastructure until a vaccine or time and natural immunity puts an end to the pandemic.
I would expect triage facilities will be needed soon if we haven’t stopped it at the border. Also cancellation of gatherings, etc. You will know it’s serious when the carefully crafted daily ministerial briefings start being published. My wife and I, as old farts and thousands like us, would be lucky to survive this thing without expert medical care which is not going to be available.
I will be talking to a public health acquaintance later this week and if there is good news I’ll gladly share it.