How much must the airlines be praying for this?

[Stickshift3000]

Originally Posted by Australopithecus

Absent any decrease in infection rates, we will likely have the same mathematical outcome in seven weeks regarding total infection numbers. Don't know yet if we will see the same mortality rates. Thinking...

Unlikely.

It would have taken China several weeks or more to initially understand the situation from December. Australia has been given a head start in this regard and can screen and manage potential cases more effectively.

[Australopithecus]

Originally Posted by Stickshift3000

Unlikely.

It would have taken China several weeks or more to initially understand the situation from December. Australia has been given a head start in this regard and can screen and manage potential cases more effectively.

Yes, hence my qualifying statement about infection rates. I don’t know yet about the difference in mortality rates under our (or any) health care system. To a lesser extent than SARS, certainly, but with some apparent pathology the disease will kill some people regardless of the intervention available (right now).

On another thread a poster was trying to poo-poo concern because of the age demographic most at risk. The ultimate “OK boomer” dismissal.

Early work indicates that this CoV uses the same cell entry as SARS CoV called an ACE2 receptor.as SARS, infecting the same specific cells (which apparently exist in greater numbers in certain subsets of the world population.)

[Rated De]

Meanwhile the list of reputable airlines ceasing mainland flying to China grows:

• Air France
• Delta
• Virgin Atlantic
• Air Canada
• KLM
• SWISS
• British Airways
• Lufthansa
• American Airlines
• Seoul Air
• Cathay Pacific (halving Capacity)
• Finnair (something Similar)

Fortunately, Australians will see portly pilots in the white plastic hats, line up to do their bit.
Only yesterday QF and the pilot union circulated fluff that (and thanks to the QF folk that sent it) person to person transmission was unlikely and that aircraft filters will take care of the virus.

• Aircraft filtration systems are more than adequate to effectively filter the air.
• The virus is not easily transmitted from person to person; unlike SARS.

Then clearly the Tiger passengers have nothing to worry about.

The FUD campaign is difficulty to detect when you have it from both sides...
Rest assured, carrying minimum fuel, on a day off, should you falter (succumb to the virus) Fort Fumble is right behind you...

About 5,063 miles

You Tube

Even the CDC is distributing FUD it seems...Fake news!

https://travel.state.gov/content/tra...-advisory.html

[ScepticalOptomist]

Originally Posted by Rated De

Fortunately, Australians will see portly pilots in the white plastic hats, line up to do their bit.

Rated De - most of the time your opinions are repetitive and boring, sometimes childish and rude, and sometimes you open your mouth just enough to prove you’re a d***.

[Sunfish]

We are about to perform a small and hopefully negative experiment on the contagiousness of Wuhan Coronavirus. Our houseguest received the email from Tiger this evening. It explains that she shared aircraft with one of the now confirmed cases, albeit not on the same flight, some days ago.

(Update) A little reading this morning suggests Coronavirus might hang around on stainless steel and other surfaces from 5 - 28 days at 20C and low relative humidity, at least according to one published paper. If that were proved correct, unfortunately by Tiger, then all but essential travel on public transport might need to be reconsidered. I doubt that anything will happen, it seems too far fetched.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2863430/

[Rated De]

Originally Posted by Sunfish

We are about to perform a small and hopefully negative experiment on the contagiousness of Wuhan Coronavirus. Our houseguest received the email from Tiger this evening. It explains that she shared aircraft with one of the now confirmed cases, albeit not on the same flight, some days ago.

(Update) A little reading this morning suggests Coronavirus might hang around on stainless steel and other surfaces from 5 - 28 days at 20C and low relative humidity, at least according to one published paper. If that were proved correct, unfortunately by Tiger, then all but essential travel on public transport might need to be reconsidered. I doubt that anything will happen, it seems too far fetched.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2863430/

Sunfish,

At the risk of some further Ad Hominen attacks...(Not from you)

The NEJOM article relates to the asymptomatic transmission on 2019-nCoV in Germany.
Of note in the study is that the index patient, upon return to China was diagnosed. The first patient had personal contact, but symptoms were mild and he recovered returning to work. Testing diagnosed nCov and high viral loads were still present post recovery.
Person described as patient 2 and 3 had no direct contact with the index patient but contact with patient 1.
Clearly the sample size is too small to draw inferences, but at least in this case the patients found the symptoms and onset mild.

Despite these concerns, all four patients who were seen in Munich have had mild cases and were hospitalized primarily for public health purposes. Since hospital capacities are limited — in particular, given the concurrent peak of the influenza season in the northern hemisphere — research is needed to determine whether such patients can be treated with appropriate guidance and oversight outside the hospital.

If this thing is confirmed R0> 2.5 our "luck" might be that outside China transmission produces milder symptoms

[Sunfish]

Hope you are right.