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Old 26th Nov 2019, 06:13
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Was the captain blameless?
The Captain made his decisions based upon his experience and the information available to him at the time as each and every Captain does.

It has been shown after the event some of the information given to him was Incorrect

We were not there therefore, we cannot question whether or not his decision was correct or not.

Further questioning, review, speculation will not change what happened, the investigation report or subsequent investigations.

Nor will any of the continuing questioning, expression of opinion or conjecture here have further investigations or court reopen to look further into the subject.

Perhaps it is more than past time to let all Rest in Peace!
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 06:18
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 06:21
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 06:24
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 07:30
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ampan, that's NOT what I'm after from this thread OR the podcasts. I was a whippersnapper when this accident happened, it's always intrigued me.Podcasts are a great way of getting the story, the investigative journalism is of a very good standard. Every perspective gets their position put forward, these podcasts have not targeted one individual.
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 07:33
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So please don't be a flog and get the thread shut down. I'll listen to your side of it. There's a generation of us that haven't heard the in-depth side of this.
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 07:36
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You seem to think that this thread is akin to some Santa Barbara prostitute. It is not. This is serious stuff. Now go back to your podnuts, then think very hard for three weeks, and then answer the question: Was the captain blameless?
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 07:44
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Couldn't afford a Santa Barbara prostitute on my salary! Spent it on an iphone 11, so its gunna have to be pocket casts. Shit, serious? I thought this was a movie?
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 07:47
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I said three weeks, not three minutes.

But there was a movie that had a connection, which you will find by googling "Gordon Vette"
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 07:51
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Sorry mate, 3 weeks it is then, chat then.
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 07:58
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Porter,
Great to see the younger generation taking an interest in this accident. The accident is one of those where the true root cause, the full truth, complete disclosure, has never been finalised officially. It is the coverups, corruption and malfeasance between a Government and itís nationally owned airline that leaves a bitter taste in peopleís mouths. In fact, had the truth been revealed about the real cause of the accident the NZ Government of the day would have been bankrupted, hence the reason for such a high level coverup. It was all about the dollars.

To see Capt. Collins lifeless body laying quietly and motionless on the cold, windy ice, forward of the fuselage with the smell of kerosene, hydraulic oil and death all around is something sobering for a younger pilot to consider.
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 08:00
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Keep on researching, Porter. Apart from the continuous arguments, there was a huge amount of information put onto this website which might still be available.
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 09:54
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Paragraph377 (being called young is generous, thankyou! Although I WAS a kid when this happened). I've been involved in a few incidents over the years, there can be some very simplistic 'findings' when it comes to investigations. The involvement of management and ops in particular are of interest to me. I'm not looking to be able to blame anybody for this tragedy but I do want to understand the full picture. This is a classic example of the Swiss Cheese.
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 10:02
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On e.threads, Dead pilot easy to blame, corrupt management and govt. slightly more difficult, seriously this subject has run its course, pulease shut it down
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 10:09
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OK, shut it down you cynical old farts. It's all about youse.
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 10:21
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Was the dead captain blameless?
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 10:22
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Gawd I didnít think I was old or cynical, maybeee I are. The Ampans of this world should not be given the o2 of PPRuNe. Anyway enough from me on this awful subject.
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 10:27
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You are not old, nor cynical. Your just thick.
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 10:43
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Originally Posted by ampan View Post

I could go on, and on, and on.
And you have.....
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 10:45
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