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QF Flight Attendant Accused of Racism by will.i.am

Old 18th Nov 2019, 10:47
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Sounds to me like a severe case of "Do you know who I am?", while playing the race card too.

In any case, a z-list celeb who trades under a pseudonym as stupid as will.i.am deserves all he gets.

PS. Never having heard of Black Eyed Peas before i just listened to a track on Youtube. Infantile, talent-free c**p, to put it mildly. There are many performers of the same genre who are well worth a listen, but these people are not.

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Old 18th Nov 2019, 10:57
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Originally Posted by QuarterInchSocket View Post

notwithstanding - he could’ve handled things better, but obviously the attendant was a persistent one.

Unfortunately they have to be persistent as a lot of passengers are just plain rude, have no manners and do not do what they are told.
Whilst some procedures may seem frustrating, they are there for a good reason.

Next time you’re on a flight, put your book down and just observe for a while. It is quite interesting watching all the different personalities interact.
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Old 18th Nov 2019, 11:38
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Originally Posted by old,not bold View Post
Sounds to me like a severe case of "Do you know who I am?"

In any case, a z-list celeb who trades under a pseudonym as stupid as will.i.am deserves all he gets.

PS. Never having heard of Black Eyed Peas before i just listened to a track on Youtube. Infantile, talent-free c**p, to put it mildly. There are many performers of the same genre who are well worth a listen, but these people are not..
I totally agree with the “do you know you i am?” part. Sounds like the guy carried on like a total dick. Seems to be increasingly common on aircraft these days.

You lost me when you started on about how stupid his name is.

You made more of a **** of yourself in the bit where you say “their music is shit”. What does his music have to do with his behaviour?

Neither of these self centered observations has any relevance to the incident as it happened and you sound almost as bad as he does when he called her a racist.
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Old 18th Nov 2019, 13:04
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old,not bold criticising will.i.am's stupid name. That's gold!
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Old 18th Nov 2019, 15:39
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A few years back I carried will.i.am from LAX-LHR. Saw him with his large computer and headphones and thought Oh Dear! He is hypo, but he proved me wrong. Absolute gentleman relaxed everyone and freely chatted away. I received good comments from the crew and fellow passengers. So maybe he was just having a bad day or .............. Not defending him for the above day, just sharing an experience.
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Old 18th Nov 2019, 16:13
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Originally Posted by guided View Post
old,not bold criticising will.i.am's stupid name. That's gold!
Right, how dare he not be content with "William," just like the other four million Americans with that first name?

I expect that some will be outraged that I dare to type it, but a fair bit of this thread reads like thinly-disguised racism. (And, no, I have no idea how the subject incident may have gone down. The passenger may or may not have been an annoying jerk, although nothing in the reports I've seen appears to justify calling the police.)
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Old 18th Nov 2019, 17:29
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Seems like William has a short memory and hasn't grasped the basics of airport procedures... Doesn't Will.i.am Know How Airports Work?

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Old 18th Nov 2019, 18:07
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Question - the tweet that started all this starts " I’m currently on a flight from Brisbane to Sydney". Do we know at what point in the flight that was actually sent? Do QF aircraft have the technology to permit a tweet to be sent in flight?
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Old 18th Nov 2019, 18:30
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Question - the tweet that started all this starts " I’m currently on a flight from Brisbane to Sydney". Do we know at what point in the flight that was actually sent? Do QF aircraft have the technology to permit a tweet to be sent in flight?
Most of Qantas’ domestic fleet have free onboard wifi.

Some of the drivel on here is nothing more than rubbish in itself. Criticising the guy’s name, his music, etc. what does that have to do with anything?

Maybe he is completely innocent. I remember getting on a Qantas flight in Singapore one night, and man the cabin crew were downright rude from the outset for absolutely no reason, and it wasn’t just one or two of them. I thought their attitude and approach to dealing with customers was appalling. If they were my crew I would have given them a dressing down about it.

That said, I got on another Qantas flight a few months later also from Singapore, and the experience was the complete opposite.

So what’s not to say that the FA really was in the wrong, and all the stupid criticisms of this musician are completely uncalled for?

On a seperate note, it’s clear that some people have zero sense of humour
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Old 18th Nov 2019, 20:33
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Originally Posted by OldnGrounded View Post
.....a fair bit of this thread reads like thinly-disguised racism.
Really? Give one example.
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Old 18th Nov 2019, 21:24
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Really? Give one example.
No. If you don't see it, you very likely won't see it. And it probably wouldn't change anything if you did.
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Old 18th Nov 2019, 21:33
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Originally Posted by OldnGrounded View Post
I expect that some will be outraged that I dare to type it, but a fair bit of this thread reads like thinly-disguised racism.
If that were the case then the thread would be moderated accordingly.

It isn't and it hasn't.
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Old 18th Nov 2019, 22:24
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Originally Posted by OldnGrounded View Post
No. If you don't see it, you very likely won't see it. And it probably wouldn't change anything if you did.
So, only you can detect it. And if you gave an example of racism on this thread I wouldn’t understand it. Right.

I strongly disagree with much written here. But vague accusations of various ‘isms’ is the refuge of those who don’t have an argument.

it’s the online equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and going ‘nah, nah, nana nah’.
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Old 18th Nov 2019, 22:39
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Originally Posted by JustinHeywood View Post

So, only you can detect it.


No, I'm sure others can detect it. So far, I'm the only one to comment, but that doesn't indicate anything about others' views. We have only a handful of comments on this thread, but over thirty thousand views.

And if you gave an example of racism on this thread I wouldn’t understand it.
What I actually said is that if you couldn't see it before my post, you likely wouldn't see it if I listed examples. I doubt that the issue is inability to understand.
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Old 18th Nov 2019, 22:40
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Originally Posted by JustinHeywood View Post

So, only you can detect it. And if you gave an example of racism on this thread I wouldn’t understand it. Right.

I strongly disagree with much written here. But vague accusations of various ‘isms’ is the refuge of those who don’t have an argument.

it’s the online equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and going ‘nah, nah, nana nah’.
Will.i.am thought 'I gotta feeling'...that's all that's required. Waiting for the Youtube parody.
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Old 18th Nov 2019, 22:54
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Will.i.am has a history of taking to Twitter after the airlines don't give him special treatment.

He tried to get into United's First Class lounge with a bogus ID it seems:

Popstar will.i.am took to twitter last night, to criticise the airline company that had allegedly kicked him out of their first class lounge believing his membership card to be fake.

The Black Eyed Peas rapper tweeted to his 12m followers yesterday night that he had been removed from the United Airline Global First Lounge after staff would not believe that his card was authentic.

After deciding to leave, he took a picture of the United Airline Global First poster alongside the words “I got kick(ed) out the club #unitedCLUBsucks."
It is not known at which airport the incident occurred but according to tweets earlier in the day it is believed he was on his way to Washington to visit his close friend and fellow rapper Sean “Diddy” Combs.



United said how much they appreciated his business and said they would 'reach out to him'. Presumably they gave him some free tickets so he wouldn't take his business elsewhere.

United Airlines said in response: "We invite only customers travelling in United Global First, customers with Global Services status traveling in United BusinessFirst, and customers traveling in first class on other Star Alliance carriers to visit our Global First Lounges. Since the customer did not meet these criteria he did not have access to the lounge. We are reaching out to the customer and appreciate his business."


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/do-you-know-who-i-william-voice-coach-is-kicked-out-of-first-class-lounge-after-staff-believe-him-to-9351101.html?amp

He also was indignant when United gave away his seat when he showed up late for an international flight.

'I fly
@BA@quantas@koreanAIR@singaporeAIR & they wait for premium passengers to arrive...they don't give away your seat like @united'

The rapper whose real name is William Adams then explained what a close call it had been. 'Plane leave at 1:15 I got to the airport at 12:30...
@united is the worse...I should have learned from the last @united experience'


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2784752/amp/Will-vents-Twitter-United-Airlines-gives-away-seat-flight-China.html
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Old 19th Nov 2019, 00:00
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Originally Posted by OldnGrounded View Post



What I actually said is that if you couldn't see it [racism] before my post, you likely wouldn't see it if I listed examples. I doubt that the issue is inability to understand.
Wow. That rare combination of patronising AND vacuous.

Again, you say that you've detected racist posts on this thread - a big call. I'm fascinated that you can detect racist speech where others including moderators cannot. Why can't you give us mere mortals just ONE example?

Could it be that you just didn't like the tone of this thread, so you took the intellectual shortcut of accusing others of being somehow lesser humans than you are?

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Old 19th Nov 2019, 00:59
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Originally Posted by JustinHeywood View Post
Its a second hand story from long ago. I’ve always found that those who are quick to jump in and lecture others on morality usually turn out to have feet of clay.

The best people are usually not so quick to judge
If referring to the expat Aussie capt who did nothing about an assaulted member of his crew, as I said, I get its probably an embellished yarn from old.

The scenario presented is not morality or a judgment, nah, its sexual assault of your crew member. And in some expat outfits the easiest action is to do nothing. Which is cowardly and a dereliction of duty- and its sad how a number of colleagues who believe they are hot shot commanders would do nothing.
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Old 19th Nov 2019, 02:12
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old,not bold criticising will.i.am's stupid name. That's gold!
What's the "I" stand for?
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Old 19th Nov 2019, 02:24
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Crew issue instructions.

Passengers comply.

How hard can it be?

Have seen many examples of individuals unable to follow simple instructions, instructions that their life depended on.

Most often on police body cam.
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