Qantas A321 Freighter
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 245
Originally Posted by wheels_down
Sending her back to Singas for a refund?
Patch away all they want, is it really going to fix the problems? What a waste of time and money this whole thing has been.
Patch away all they want, is it really going to fix the problems? What a waste of time and money this whole thing has been.
The 767 and 737s haven't caused these problems so soon after entering service. And this at a time where freight is booming and we need every aircraft we can get.
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: brisbane
Posts: 87
It’s the first of its type. Of course there will be some teething issues. However there is nothing exotic about it, it’s just an airbus. The problems will get sorted.
It has significantly more capability than the 737s it will eventually replace.
The 737s are old and have payload issues as a result of the 9g barrier.
Are they supposed to keep flying relics forever?
It has significantly more capability than the 737s it will eventually replace.
The 737s are old and have payload issues as a result of the 9g barrier.
Are they supposed to keep flying relics forever?
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 146
You need to expect 3 months from Entry into Service for teething problems to be ironed out. This is the same whether your talking B767, B757 B737 or A321. Only B737 with the Israeli mod are affected by the 9 G bulkhead. AEI mod is not affected. I believe there is a fix approved for the Israeli bulkhead. Not 100% sure how they are fixing it or how many man hours involved.
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: space
Posts: 382
I guarantee if you experience anything like a 9G deceleration the 9G barrier will be the last thing to worry about. Strapping PAG's is a waste of time. No PAG is going to get you as you are already squished like strawberry jam. Not much structural strength forward of the instrument panel is there?
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: melbourne
Posts: 447
Originally Posted by Qantas 787
Is anyone surprised? Who had this brilliant idea? Was it Andrew David or someone else? Anyone responsible won't be held to account.
The 767 and 737s haven't caused these problems so soon after entering service. And this at a time where freight is booming and we need every aircraft we can get.
The 767 and 737s haven't caused these problems so soon after entering service. And this at a time where freight is booming and we need every aircraft we can get.
The 733's are all ex tn/qf converted pax aircraft so all history & records right there from day dot.
The 734( just like this 321) came along after a long career with many overseas airlines & what we are seeing is almost identical in the problems encountered after conversion due to its maintenance history at many overseas facilities.
Guess u get what u pay for.
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: ex EGNM, now NZRO
Posts: 513
Unsure on that, but did anyone notice the 734 recently on the general Rumours page with destroyed main gear from a hard landing. Like most freighters it had a hard life.
734 hard landing @ Exeter
https://www.avherald.com/h?article=4e1e21a4&opt=0
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734 hard landing @ Exeter
https://www.avherald.com/h?article=4e1e21a4&opt=0
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: brisbane
Posts: 87
The 767 is currently leased so it would make sense to convert a few QF 330s to freighters, as these are fully owned, making ownership/operating costs cheaper than leased aircraft.
Also QF could get rid of the 767 sim. Id imagine the cost of having a simulator for a single aircraft is not viable.
Also QF could get rid of the 767 sim. Id imagine the cost of having a simulator for a single aircraft is not viable.
Join Date: May 2001
Location: passing a cloud
Posts: 334
"tell him he's dreaming" is the answer to QF converting existing A330s to freighters about now.
simple facts
QF A330's are GE powered, Airbus has only certified PW & RR powered 330 freighters and given they have not sold a new build in years and there dozens of available machines for conversion no one will certified a GE powered machine.
simple facts
QF A330's are GE powered, Airbus has only certified PW & RR powered 330 freighters and given they have not sold a new build in years and there dozens of available machines for conversion no one will certified a GE powered machine.
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Weltschmerz-By-The-Sea, Queensland, Australia
Posts: 986
Would they even contemplate converting -200s which are almost all over 60,000 hrs and into the expensive Intermediate service goals part of their airframe life? Surely it would not escape their attention that the age/reliability curves have already been crossed?
Oh wait...a ground-breaking yet costly late life modification is right up their alley, so I am thinking its 75% a goer.
Oh wait...a ground-breaking yet costly late life modification is right up their alley, so I am thinking its 75% a goer.
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: brisbane
Posts: 87
Originally Posted by TWOTBAGS
"tell him he's dreaming" is the answer to QF converting existing A330s to freighters about now.
simple facts
QF A330's are GE powered, Airbus has only certified PW & RR powered 330 freighters and given they have not sold a new build in years and there dozens of available machines for conversion no one will certified a GE powered machine.
simple facts
QF A330's are GE powered, Airbus has only certified PW & RR powered 330 freighters and given they have not sold a new build in years and there dozens of available machines for conversion no one will certified a GE powered machine.
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Canberra
Posts: 17
Originally Posted by PoppaJo
Are the RAAF not taking the 200s?
