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Old 16th Jan 2021, 00:10
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Sending her back to Singas for a refund?

Patch away all they want, is it really going to fix the problems? What a waste of time and money this whole thing has been.
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Old 16th Jan 2021, 00:18
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Originally Posted by wheels_down View Post
Sending her back to Singas for a refund?

Patch away all they want, is it really going to fix the problems? What a waste of time and money this whole thing has been.
Is anyone surprised? Who had this brilliant idea? Was it Andrew David or someone else? Anyone responsible won't be held to account.

The 767 and 737s haven't caused these problems so soon after entering service. And this at a time where freight is booming and we need every aircraft we can get.
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Old 16th Jan 2021, 01:35
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Itís the first of its type. Of course there will be some teething issues. However there is nothing exotic about it, itís just an airbus. The problems will get sorted.

It has significantly more capability than the 737s it will eventually replace.
The 737s are old and have payload issues as a result of the 9g barrier.
Are they supposed to keep flying relics forever?
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Old 16th Jan 2021, 02:53
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You need to expect 3 months from Entry into Service for teething problems to be ironed out. This is the same whether your talking B767, B757 B737 or A321. Only B737 with the Israeli mod are affected by the 9 G bulkhead. AEI mod is not affected. I believe there is a fix approved for the Israeli bulkhead. Not 100% sure how they are fixing it or how many man hours involved.
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Old 16th Jan 2021, 06:09
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I guarantee if you experience anything like a 9G deceleration the 9G barrier will be the last thing to worry about. Strapping PAG's is a waste of time. No PAG is going to get you as you are already squished like strawberry jam. Not much structural strength forward of the instrument panel is there?
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Old 16th Jan 2021, 19:11
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Originally Posted by Qantas 787 View Post
Is anyone surprised? Who had this brilliant idea? Was it Andrew David or someone else? Anyone responsible won't be held to account.

The 767 and 737s haven't caused these problems so soon after entering service. And this at a time where freight is booming and we need every aircraft we can get.
The 767 was a boeing built dedicated freighter & had only flown minimal hours when bought,there was a 2nd 1 on offer but that was turned down.
The 733's are all ex tn/qf converted pax aircraft so all history & records right there from day dot.
The 734( just like this 321) came along after a long career with many overseas airlines & what we are seeing is almost identical in the problems encountered after conversion due to its maintenance history at many overseas facilities.
Guess u get what u pay for.
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Old 8th Apr 2021, 05:13
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Qantas freight has announced that A330 freighters will be introduced to the fleet in the future. Any information on how many and if these will replace the 767?
Will they be ex QF aircraft?
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Old 8th Apr 2021, 06:42
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Unsure on that, but did anyone notice the 734 recently on the general Rumours page with destroyed main gear from a hard landing. Like most freighters it had a hard life.

734 hard landing @ Exeter

https://www.avherald.com/h?article=4e1e21a4&opt=0
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Old 8th Apr 2021, 07:41
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Qantas freight has announced that A330 freighters will be introduced to the fleet in the future
They have?
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Old 8th Apr 2021, 08:52
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The 767 is currently leased so it would make sense to convert a few QF 330s to freighters, as these are fully owned, making ownership/operating costs cheaper than leased aircraft.

Also QF could get rid of the 767 sim. Id imagine the cost of having a simulator for a single aircraft is not viable.
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Old 8th Apr 2021, 12:37
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Id imagine the cost of having a simulator for a single aircraft is not viable.
What? How much electricity does a 767 Simulator use?
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Old 8th Apr 2021, 14:29
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Originally Posted by Capt Fathom View Post
What? How much electricity does a 767 Simulator use?
I donít know. How much does it cost to move a simulator from Sydney to Brisbane?
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Old 8th Apr 2021, 20:16
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I donít know. How much does it cost to move a simulator from Sydney to Brisbane?

and back again in 18 months
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Old 8th Apr 2021, 21:23
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The money they make by selling time in it to externals far outweighs the running costs!
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Old 9th Apr 2021, 01:12
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So where is this announcement?
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Old 9th Apr 2021, 01:22
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"tell him he's dreaming" is the answer to QF converting existing A330s to freighters about now.
simple facts
QF A330's are GE powered, Airbus has only certified PW & RR powered 330 freighters and given they have not sold a new build in years and there dozens of available machines for conversion no one will certified a GE powered machine.
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Old 9th Apr 2021, 02:02
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Would they even contemplate converting -200s which are almost all over 60,000 hrs and into the expensive Intermediate service goals part of their airframe life? Surely it would not escape their attention that the age/reliability curves have already been crossed?

Oh wait...a ground-breaking yet costly late life modification is right up their alley, so I am thinking its 75% a goer.
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Old 9th Apr 2021, 05:24
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Originally Posted by TWOTBAGS View Post
"tell him he's dreaming" is the answer to QF converting existing A330s to freighters about now.
simple facts
QF A330's are GE powered, Airbus has only certified PW & RR powered 330 freighters and given they have not sold a new build in years and there dozens of available machines for conversion no one will certified a GE powered machine.
The P2F conversions are certified for all engine types.
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Old 9th Apr 2021, 12:56
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Are the RAAF not taking the 200s?
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Old 10th Apr 2021, 05:40
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo View Post
Are the RAAF not taking the 200s?
Why would the RAAF be taking anymore 200s? They took two to convey to KC30s and whilst they were offered a further two they were not of the same vintage and therefore RAAF declined the offer. No plans for any more.
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