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Old 10th Aug 2019, 03:53
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Qantas A321 Freighter

AFR reporting that Qantas have signed a $1 billion dollar contract with Australia Post.

The deal includes three new A321 freighter aircraft.
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Old 10th Aug 2019, 04:32
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‘New’ 😂

I think youll find theyre the old JQ A321s, 2 of which are approaching their 60,000 hour spar limit (which only applies to passenger operations).
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Originally Posted by ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE View Post
‘New’ 😂

I think youll find theyre the old JQ A321s, 2 of which are approaching their 60,000 hour spar limit (which only applies to passenger operations).
They will be pretty reliable machines those ones.

At least with the extra sound deadening in the flight deck they will be nice and quiet.
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Old 10th Aug 2019, 10:11
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So it’s ok if the spar fails during cargo ops?
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Cutting into W and Z? Are they nuts?
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Old 10th Aug 2019, 21:26
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Cutting into W and Z? Are they nuts?
That was firmly established many years ago, now it’s a case of how much damage they do.
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So it’s ok if the spar fails during cargo ops?
If you look at the way rules are applied differently to freight ops from pax ops, eg, fatigue rules, there appears to be the belief that a freighter operation is less critical. I guess the 2 pilots, being the only people on the aeroplane are not THAT important. The regulators also seem to be oblivious to the fact the freighters, generally, fly on the same airways and into the same airports as pax aircraft, yet the risk to those on the ground appears to be ignored. Once again, safety is our priority, as long as it does not cost too much!!
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Originally Posted by ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE View Post
‘New’ 😂

I think youll find theyre the old JQ A321s, 2 of which are approaching their 60,000 hour spar limit (which only applies to passenger operations).
Please be Y and Z. Pls pls pls.
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Originally Posted by ECAMACTIONSCOMPLETE View Post
‘New’ 😂

I think youll find theyre the old JQ A321s, 2 of which are approaching their 60,000 hour spar limit (which only applies to passenger operations).
Couldn’t be worse than the 300’s they have banging around.
Great news for the EFA guys/girls, seems the Australia post contract isn’t going anywhere else anytime soon.
Enjoy the Bus!
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What makes you think efa will get them? They will be flown by a third party operator under the network aoc based in Nauru.
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Old 11th Aug 2019, 01:32
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Originally Posted by ilikecheese View Post


Couldn’t be worse than the 300’s they have banging around.
Great news for the EFA guys/girls, seems the Australia post contract isn’t going anywhere else anytime soon.
Enjoy the Bus!
737 is built for freighter runs. VWY and Z is most certainly not lol! Horrendous pieces of $hit.
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Old 11th Aug 2019, 10:25
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New CP and Deputy CP for EFA from the ranks of JQ, ready made for the fleet change over. I’ve actually heard a third 321 will go across too.

They will carry a lot of boxes, all in cans for quick loading, and if they put the Aux tanks back in they could go a fair distance too.
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Whose STC will be be modified on?

Originally Posted by Roj approved View Post
New CP and Deputy CP for EFA from the ranks of JQ, ready made for the fleet change over. I’ve actually heard a third 321 will go across too.

They will carry a lot of boxes, all in cans for quick loading, and if they put the Aux tanks back in they could go a fair distance too.
I wonder if Precision will do the conversion? If so, the airframes should be good for about 27T combined on the main and lower decks.

It will be interesting.
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New CP and Deputy CP for EFA from the ranks of JQ, ready made for the fleet change over. I’ve actually heard a third 321 will go across too.
Very interesting development.
A Qantas pilot oversaw the importation of contract pilots. Firstly, it was "Qantas" freight flying 767 why Qantas 767 pilots sat around idle. Rewarded handsomely.

Now introduce a new type with the JQ "management" into EFA, with a new type, but look for new pilots on a different and presumably reduced terms.

Wash, rinse and repeat.
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Old 12th Aug 2019, 04:25
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Will most likely be flown by EFA crew on the same ‘narrow body’ pay scale and conditions.
I wonder if/how the announcement will influence the EBA negotiations that are going on.
Could be looking at an all airbus freighter fleet in a few years. EFR is a reliable workhorse, but she’s the last in the qantas fleet and only has a couple of years left on the lease.
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Old 12th Aug 2019, 06:18
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Originally Posted by Weapons Grade View Post
I wonder if Precision will do the conversion? If so, the airframes should be good for about 27T combined on the main and lower decks.
Do you have any info about the mods required to convert them for freight ops? Being the first A321P2F’s in the world, I’m sure that there are a number of engineering issues to sort out.
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If safety was paramount no passenger plane would ever leave the ground, they do crash occasionally. Having an engineering background on critical machinery I would say everything has a use by date and having a lower limit of safety on cargo planes seems perfectly correct to me. After doing the flight between Singapore and London many times and seeing the hiding the 747's were given I would say that retiring them to the paddock carrying cargo is a very sensible thing to do. I would hate to think I was on a high hour high cycle 747-400 doing a long haul flight without an empty seat and full of cargo.
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So...not a pilot then, Ertimus? A piece of crap flogged out hull is more useful as beer cans.
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Old 12th Aug 2019, 09:55
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Do you have any info about the mods required to convert them for freight ops? Being the first A321P2F’s in the world, I’m sure that there are a number of engineering issues to sort out.
Try looking up Precision Aircraft Solutions; it should enlighten you somewhat.
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