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Old 16th Apr 2019, 06:18
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Air NZ Vs Qantas Milestone

With flights to Seoul on sale, for the first time Air NZ flies it’s own metal to more international destinations than Qantas. (even when excluding trans-tasman services and including QF’s seasonal services)

Air NZ seems to demonstrate a greater appetite for revenue growth even in the face of its ‘end of the line’ status and similar competitive and financial challenges. No doubt government ownership is a difference and history cannot be forgotten, but you can only be impressed.

They’re sure having a red hot go, something you feel Qantas and AJ are incapable of implementing.
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NZ Government has just over 50% shareholding and does not get involved in the business of running the airline.
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I see Air NZ won a brand loyalty award or the like being in the top three in Australia. Three weeks ago booked on Air NZ Premium Y on a B777-300 BNE-AKL. Check-in a ballsup as the agent put a bag sideways down the chute and no-one to fix said issue. It was a leaderless exercise with pleasant chap in his black AirNZ T-shirt taking control without knowing what to do. This is followed by "sorry but due to an aircraft change not all can be accommodated on this flight [the -300 had become a -200] and some of those in J became Premium and Premium became Y and some Y became spectators. The crew were excellent given we're an hour and a half late [metal in an engine said our Captain so changed aircraft. Four days later I returned. Auto bag tag readers broken...go to gate..."oh the flight will be delayed to BNE due non-availability of the A320neo will be replaced by a domestic A320 with knees in face - 2 hrs]

Staff great however! So yes win the award..
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Originally Posted by TBM-Legend
I see Air NZ won a brand loyalty award or the like being in the top three in Australia. Three weeks ago booked on Air NZ Premium Y on a B777-300 BNE-AKL. Check-in a ballsup as the agent put a bag sideways down the chute and no-one to fix said issue. It was a leaderless exercise with pleasant chap in his black AirNZ T-shirt taking control without knowing what to do. This is followed by "sorry but due to an aircraft change not all can be accommodated on this flight [the -300 had become a -200] and some of those in J became Premium and Premium became Y and some Y became spectators. The crew were excellent given we're an hour and a half late [metal in an engine said our Captain so changed aircraft. Four days later I returned. Auto bag tag readers broken...go to gate..."oh the flight will be delayed to BNE due non-availability of the A320neo will be replaced by a domestic A320 with knees in face - 2 hrs]

Staff great however! So yes win the award..
domestic 320's do not cross the tasman.

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Old 22nd Apr 2019, 02:04
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Even if they had a Domestic 320 free they wouldn’t send it they would cancel the flight.

Dom 320 is a loco config so rather miserable for Tasman crossing. You’d be better off flying Jetstar.
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Aside from being a loco config, the domestic A320s are non EDTO so it would be impractical to send one across the Tasman.
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Old 29th Apr 2019, 02:39
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Air NZ flies it’s own metal to more international destinations than Qantas....

Yes Air NZ will serve 32 international destinations when Seoul starts later this year. While Qantas currently serve 27 international excluding Jetstar. While Air NZ has an advantage serving more cities in Australia and many more Pacific Island ones that help it have a higher total. . Qantas has added a few in recent years though. Beijing, Osaka, Nadi and Denpasar so not doing too badly.
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I am not sure you can compare apples for apples here. Air NZ does enjoy a less than competitive landscape into / out of New Zealand compared to Qantas into / out of Australia. There are some 60 + airlines flying into / out of Australia today. Around 10 just from China alone. 31 airlines into / out of New Zealand. Qantas has code share arrangements on many markets in response to demand (thin routes). Some markets are pretty saturated these days. Why operate the market at a loss with your own metal if you can make money with a code share?

Qantas would need to serve new markets. It isn't that necessarily easy depending on bilaterals (if rigid), equipment type and availability etc. It does not make sense to redeploy capacity away from one market if it is achieving strong unit revenue there...
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