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Old 10th Dec 2018, 01:02
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Qantas Bendigo to Sydney

Just saw this.
QantasLink Q300 6 days per week

https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...10-p50l83.html
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Old 10th Dec 2018, 06:26
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Will QANTAS pick up the tab for all the ASIC cards which will be required by all the aviators that don't need one now there? Bendigo will become a security controlled airport.
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Old 10th Dec 2018, 06:50
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Originally Posted by thunderbird five View Post
Will QANTAS pick up the tab for all the ASIC cards which will be required by all the aviators that don't need one now there? Bendigo will become a security controlled airport.
Why? Do the community of Bendigo not want a regular air transport service?
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Old 10th Dec 2018, 07:15
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Thunderbird 5 et al,
The impact on other users will depend on how dumb or smart the aerodrome operator is ---- there is NO LEGAL REQUIREMENT for the whole airfield to become "security controlled" --- only the secure ramp and secure boarding area.
The " [un-permitted expression] in the woodpile" was/is subsidies for fences and local councils/aerodrome leaseholders chasing the biggest bucket of money ---- and local councilors who like to boast that they have a "much safer airport", as if every country town was a hotbed of Islamic extremism.
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Old 10th Dec 2018, 07:43
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Interesting. Morning up, afternoon back. I can clearly see the market Bendigo-Sydney. Bendigo Bank on its own probably moves 25-30 per day as its NSW operations are extensive. And as for interlining- domestically its a no-brainer and probably fairly attractive for international.
but what I’m having trouble with is the Sydney-Bendigo market. Unless you are a miner you only make an air route pay with economic traffic each way, and I can’t see a huge Sydney or interline originating market.
time will tell of course but for now its a positive .
As for ASICS Moorabbin got away with a dual designation for several years but in the end got dragged in to the system. The only way would be for security screening to be done at arrival in Sydney a la the REX services to MEL.
And leadsled- have a look at the virulent facebook page “stop the mosque in Bendigo” - I’m sure those bozos will have something to say about this.
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Old 10th Dec 2018, 07:53
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Very cool. With one flight each way per day, any idea on how they will crew this? i.e. will Sydney based pilots and FAs overnight in BXG or would there be crew based there?
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Old 10th Dec 2018, 09:19
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Cant wait to see the Dash mixing it with the jet circuit yellow nuisance machines that fly so wide they need a clearance to entry AY control zone !
I fly into BDG on a semi reg basis, shall look fwd to having right of way over an RPT who's gunna do the 5mile final at every opportunity due arrogance:-)(....sometimes you win sometimes you lose:-):-)
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Old 10th Dec 2018, 09:30
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Originally Posted by airspace alpha View Post
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As for ASICS Moorabbin got away with a dual designation for several years but in the end got dragged in to the system.
AA,
I am not sure what you mean by duel designation, but the whole airport does NOT have to be declared security restricted for RPT services, have a look at actual regulations, not the myths and PR bulldust ---- and airport operators have made some rather poor choices chasing a myth of a "Golden Fleece" to be soaked from RPT services.
It will be interesting to see how smart or dumb the airport operation proves to be.
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Old 10th Dec 2018, 09:30
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Originally Posted by machtuk View Post
I fly into BDG on a semi reg basis, shall look fwd to having right of way over an RPT who's gunna do the 5mile final at every opportunity due arrogance:-)(....sometimes you win sometimes you lose:-):-)
You're exactly right - RPT aircraft fly 5 mile finals whenever they can purely to stroke their egos
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Old 10th Dec 2018, 11:48
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I bet WOL and Jetgo were just as excited to open up new markets. Economic models will tell you what ever they were commissioned to find. Let's see how long it lasts.
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Old 10th Dec 2018, 11:52
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Originally Posted by Traffic_Is_Er_Was View Post
I bet WOL and Jetgo were just as excited to open up new markets. Economic models will tell you what ever they were commissioned to find. Let's see how long it lasts.
I'm going to guess Qantas likely has a better way of doing such modelling than Jetgo and much more brand awareness.

Oh and I to am interested to see how a foxbat or 2 in the circuit and a Q300 work.
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Old 10th Dec 2018, 22:16
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Just like at every other CTAF where RPT operates into you muppets.
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Old 11th Dec 2018, 02:09
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It amazes me how everyone wants the industry to expand and grow and get better services everywhere, but yet show only negativity in response to what's better for aviation as a whole.
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Old 11th Dec 2018, 03:12
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The council want a new $10 million terminal, for which they are prepared to tip in $1 million. They wanted $4.4 million from the Feds. and the same from the State Govt, but missed out on the Feds. I guess for one flight a day, the tin shed will do.
It will be interesting to see how smart or dumb the airport operation proves to be.
Not that dumb. The car park is getting built.
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Old 11th Dec 2018, 04:24
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I fly into BDG on a semi reg basis, shall look fwd to having right of way over an RPT who's gunna do the 5mile final at every opportunity due arrogance:-)(....sometimes you win sometimes you lose:-):-)
Rpt pilots are basically looking to get from A-B as quickly and as safely as possible. They’ve simply no interest or energy in prooving or winning anything. The last thing they want to is to cause a conflict or have a near miss. You can find yourself pulled off line at the drop of a hat in the airline world, it’s not some sort of game or hobby.

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Old 11th Dec 2018, 04:28
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The savings in car parking in Bendigo v Tullamarine could be a factor in locals deciding their routing for long haul travel

The walk from car park to terminal will be brief! so the door to airstair travel time will benifit residents who live well south of Bendigo.


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Old 11th Dec 2018, 07:50
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Hey I fly our Kingairs onto a 5 mile final everywhere I go as often as possible and I'm as arrogant as buggary. Can't think of any other reason to fly a 5 mile final !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 11th Dec 2018, 09:24
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Yep well said, fantastic another regional route.

Hope it survives the test of time.

Flying into a CTAF and self controlling is better than some erm assisted controlling in some parts of the world!
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Old 11th Dec 2018, 22:54
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I'm going to guess Qantas likely has a better way of doing such modelling than Jetgo and much more brand awareness.
Nothing to do with modelling.

Dan the Man is footing the bill. Just like he is paying Jetstars million dollar yearly losses at AVV and a multi million dollar grant to AirAsia to move down to Avalon.

Have you ever wondered why so many Chinese carriers fly to MEL? Cause Dan throws millions at them to come here.
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Old 12th Dec 2018, 03:40
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“Dan the man” is a very popular chap. Landslide victory and all.

Must be just me that doesn’t like sitting in traffic wondering if I’m going to get car jacked.
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