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The B747-400 was prone to simultaneous high and low speed warnings, and a completely cocked up ADI speed display, but that was always a damaged AoA vane mechanical damage. The sights and sounds certainly added to the entertainment during takeoff and initial climb, where, in this case, it always became evident.
Unlike Airbus, there was no effect on manual control. At least in the Boeing democracy, the pilot still has 51% of the votes.
And you can get 100% of the vote if you force an Airbus to direct law. It's just that's there's no individual switch to do that.
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Captain Sullivan saved an aircraft 300 souls and the corporate future of both Qantas and Airbus
His career was ended by PTSD as a direct result of this event.His treatment by Qantas is a stain on its history
https://www.thetvdb.com/series/mayday/episodes/6686077
His career was ended by PTSD as a direct result of this event.His treatment by Qantas is a stain on its history
https://www.thetvdb.com/series/mayday/episodes/6686077
captainrats and mr deux:
could you please enlighten us on how Captain Sullivan and Sonic were allegedly betrayed by Qf.
I would suggest that Qantas is no different to any of our large corporations here in Australia when it comes to staff.
They really don’t care.
The only thing that matters is their bonus. The rest is just just for show. They’d sell their own grandmother given the chance.
They really don’t care.
The only thing that matters is their bonus. The rest is just just for show. They’d sell their own grandmother given the chance.
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Wombat Watcher,
Like most incidents at Qantas, they were guilty until proven innocent....and even then, the Company treated them like....crap is the nice word for it.
Sit down and have a beer with Sonic and let him tell what really went on, and how he was treated by Management.
Not all Captains who successfully manage an incident get to write books...
Like most incidents at Qantas, they were guilty until proven innocent....and even then, the Company treated them like....crap is the nice word for it.
Sit down and have a beer with Sonic and let him tell what really went on, and how he was treated by Management.
Not all Captains who successfully manage an incident get to write books...
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Nunc est bibendum
I’m still waiting for the book by the (then) 744 Captain who has the oxy bottle explosion and depressurisation into Manila ex HKG. I know he contributes semi regularly here on PPRUNE but suspect humility prevents him from going into print.
I’d read Kev’s book too if he wrote one. Still won’t go near De Crespigny’s work of semi fiction. ‘Inspired by true events’ I think is how they describe it in the movie world.
Im just saddened by the lack of recognition that Kev got from Qantas for handling what was a very complex and difficult situation. One that didn’t end when they got on the ground.
I’d read Kev’s book too if he wrote one. Still won’t go near De Crespigny’s work of semi fiction. ‘Inspired by true events’ I think is how they describe it in the movie world.
Im just saddened by the lack of recognition that Kev got from Qantas for handling what was a very complex and difficult situation. One that didn’t end when they got on the ground.
could you please enlighten us on how Captain Sullivan and Sonic were allegedly betrayed by Qf
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Wombat Watcher,
Like most incidents at Qantas, they were guilty until proven innocent....and even then, the Company treated them like....crap is the nice word for it.
Sit down and have a beer with Sonic and let him tell what really went on, and how he was treated by Management.
Not all Captains who successfully manage an incident get to write books...
Like most incidents at Qantas, they were guilty until proven innocent....and even then, the Company treated them like....crap is the nice word for it.
Sit down and have a beer with Sonic and let him tell what really went on, and how he was treated by Management.
Not all Captains who successfully manage an incident get to write books...
is this the same JB, the hero of Virgin who was once CEO QF International?
is this the same Sonic who was personally contacted by JB soon after the incident, given certain advice on how to proceed, ignored it, tried to skip the country to avoid possible arrest after advice from the local Japan ALPA rep, was denied boarding at checkin at Osaka airport and subsequently had to be dipomatically extracted from the mess?
It surely must have been someone else.
is this the same JB, the hero of Virgin who was once CEO QF International?
is this the same Sonic who was personally contacted by JB soon after the incident, given certain advice on how to proceed, ignored it, tried to skip the country to avoid possible arrest after advice from the local Japan ALPA rep, was denied boarding at checkin at Osaka airport and subsequently had to be dipomatically extracted from the mess?
It surely must have been someone else.
I’ll leave the link to the report below, lest anyone accuse me of taking the piss
http://www.mlit.go.jp/jtsb/eng-air_report/VH-QPE.pdf
Actually, after initially pulling back on the stick to no avail, he released it. He realised he had lost control of the FBW, so he started to momentarily pull back on it until it responded to his input again. The reason being, if he had held it back fully and regained control everyone would have been subjected to 2.5 Gs when it started working again. He had the training and presence of mind to realise this and reduce substantially the impact that a sudden, full pitch up request would have had on anyone floating near the roof. Damn fine aviator in my opinion. I dips me lid to ya! Pretty good bloke too.
"is this the same JB, the hero of Virgin who was once CEO QF International?"
Wombat, the International CEO who wanted to leave Sonic in a Japanese jail was LS, not JB.
Wombat, the International CEO who wanted to leave Sonic in a Japanese jail was LS, not JB.
Actually, after initially pulling back on the stick to no avail, he released it. He realised he had lost control of the FBW, so he started to momentarily pull back on it until it responded to his input again. The reason being, if he had held it back fully and regained control everyone would have been subjected to 2.5 Gs when it started working again. He had the training and presence of mind to realise this and reduce substantially the impact that a sudden, full pitch up request would have had on anyone floating near the roof. Damn fine aviator in my opinion. I dips me lid to ya! Pretty good bloke too.
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LS didn’t join Qf until 2008, was Chief operating officer until 2012 then became CEO Qf Domestic.
he was never CEO International.
There was no such position in 2005. J B was EGM Qantas.
he was never CEO International.
There was no such position in 2005. J B was EGM Qantas.
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Support Captain Kevin Sullivan....he bloody well deserves it
https://www.change.org/p/australian-...share_petition
https://www.change.org/p/australian-...share_petition
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Please forgive my ignorance. Just why would a national airline sack a captain who made the only difference that saved everyone on board following a technical "glitch"? Didn't that make him an immensely better pilot for it? I just don't get the rationale behind it.