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Old 4th Dec 2018, 00:55
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Originally Posted by wheels_down View Post
Whereís Merren?
Studying for her VA command position
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Old 4th Dec 2018, 04:02
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Tigers have a very fractured pilot group, the Airline know this, they rely on it to keep that unrest within the pilot group, keeps the confusion on the boil stalling for time. The last PIA was aborted at the last minute due some cunning tactics from the upper management, the drivers bought it hook line & sinker!
They have had more CP's, CEO's T&Cers & managers of all descriptions than most have had hot meals, the most dysfunctional Airline in Australia!
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Old 4th Dec 2018, 08:02
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Originally Posted by machtuk View Post
Tigers have a very fractured pilot group, the Airline know this, they rely on it to keep that unrest within the pilot group, keeps the confusion on the boil stalling for time. The last PIA was aborted at the last minute due some cunning tactics from the upper management, the drivers bought it hook line & sinker!
They have had more CP's, CEO's T&Cers & managers of all descriptions than most have had hot meals, the most dysfunctional Airline in Australia!
I donít think PIA can be averted this time. The pilot group is fed up. The offer from the company would need to be amazing to avert it. I has been approved by fair work already. Just a matter of time.
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Old 13th Dec 2018, 07:10
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PIA approved. Commences 21st December.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...13-p50m32.html
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Old 13th Dec 2018, 08:29
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as long as their air go slows donít delay me, good luck to them.
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Old 3rd Jan 2019, 07:22
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Work to Rule - Good luck.
Very sadly, an all too familiar issue in Australia with Pilots, Engineers and Cabin Crew, thanks to the inept mangerial style still in vogue.
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Old 3rd Jan 2019, 09:14
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Work to Rule - Good luck.
Very sadly, an all too familiar issue in Australia with Pilots, Engineers and Cabin Crew, thanks to the inept mangerial style still in vogue.

this is good to see, the Tiger management have been cunning and useless to say the least! In the past the management have relied on the pilot group being fractured, they are now becoming as one.
Stand United guys/gals show the mongrels that it's no more Mr nice guy & getting abused!
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Old 3rd Jan 2019, 11:25
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Cobham pilots made a quant leap in their EB recently. If the Cobham pilots can stick together anyone can, good luck!
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Old 3rd Jan 2019, 13:04
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Originally Posted by Flava Saver View Post
Itís quite easy to do PIA that doesnít disrupt the pax significantly that can be union sanctioned.

* No de rated take offís
* Fully configured by 3000í
* No track shortening
* Sign on right at sign on, not 5 or 10 mins early, go grab that coffee if the bus arrived early

Iím sure thereís plenty of other ideas.
No intersection departures,
Full Rev THR on landing,
No Single Engine Taxi,
Only report Mandatory Reportable Items (regulator hates that one).

You will never win the support of the travelling public, NEVER. Since we were labelled Glrofied Bus Drivers back in the 80ís, that is all the public think and will think.

Work to rule, cancelling flights will only drive your pay checks onto another airline. You need to look at it from a Business perspective (the airline does), how much is a Day Off worth to the company?
ď I will work my day off sure. I want double day off payment, overtime flying rate and the day off added to my annual Leave for this year. If not, find someone else to operate.Ē
Why shoot ourselves in the first foot? The purpose is to get our worth remunerated by the company, remunerate us. There will be a break even point where the company says it is not financially viable, that should be the target.

When will unions evolve and stop playing the Companies game?
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Old 3rd Jan 2019, 14:24
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Entitled morons, go get a job at Walmart... You will be crying if they close up.
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Old 3rd Jan 2019, 22:18
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Entitled morons, go get a job at Walmart... You will be crying if they close up.
You seem to have an affixiation with Walmart 4 Holer, maybe it's you that's working there. Tell me, how are the terms and conditions there?
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Old 3rd Jan 2019, 22:24
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Go hard boys plenty of other jobs around these days ,
easy for F/Os as no loss of rank .
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Old 3rd Jan 2019, 23:09
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For all we know there could be a complete new Management lineup at VA and TT in 12 months.

We we donít know how much Dunkerley will gut the joint. But Iíd be hedging bets on a complete overhaul.

Farewell MM
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Old 3rd Jan 2019, 23:31
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Originally Posted by wheels_down View Post
For all we know there could be a complete new Management lineup at VA and TT in 12 months.

We we donít know how much Dunkerley will gut the joint. But Iíd be hedging bets on a complete overhaul.

Farewell MM
There's always a complete new management line up ever 12 mths, so to speak, that's half the problem. New numbnuts come in trying to reinvent the wheel, find it's impossible then move on leaving a new mess behind. Tigers have had more managers at all levels than most have had hot meals, that kinda says it all!
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Old 3rd Jan 2019, 23:32
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Entitled morons, go get a job at Walmart... You will be crying if they close up.
That's a little abusive? And Walmart?
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Old 3rd Jan 2019, 23:54
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Originally Posted by machtuk View Post
There's always a complete new management line up ever 12 mths, so to speak, that's half the problem. New numbnuts come in trying to reinvent the wheel, find it's impossible then move on leaving a new mess behind. Tigers have had more managers at all levels than most have had hot meals, that kinda says it all!
11 Ceo's in 11 years, why not hit 12 in 12. They come in, line their pockets and leave with no actual regard for the operation. While front line staff try to keep the train on the tracks, with no thanks let alone renumeration. Nothing will change until there is an overhaul at VA.
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Old 4th Jan 2019, 01:34
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What’s the major sticking point/s?

Is it money, conditions or both?

I see the draft agreement that was rejected had monthly Captain base salary of $209K for 60 block hours. Was that part of the agreement palatable to most? Or is a higher $ number being fought for?

Hoping for solidarity and a fairer, improved offer for you guys/gals.

PG
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Old 4th Jan 2019, 02:37
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I’m very surprised that Tiger pilots are taking PIA, especially as “Merren McArthur is a popular leader.”
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Old 4th Jan 2019, 04:38
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Check out her LinkedIn Page. Get the vomit bag out before you read it.
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Old 4th Jan 2019, 06:19
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Does anybody on this thread recall what their base salary was as a narrow body Captain twenty or thirty years ago? ( I’m too young and good looking to know). I am just interested to see what the ratio is now between median salary and $209k, and then see what the ratio was back then.
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