Qantas Australian pilot roadshows 2018
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Qantas Australian pilot roadshows 2018
Just out of curiosity, how are the roadshows going? Would love to think decent numbers are attending but that is my question exactly.
I attended a road show in Adelaide in September last year. Very informative and seem to be quiet genuine, maybe optimistic, with regards to the required numbers in the coming 12 months of +400 across the group. No real specific details about any part of the group. But obviously my information might be some what outdated now.
Most likely an interesting year ahead.
I attended a road show in Adelaide in September last year. Very informative and seem to be quiet genuine, maybe optimistic, with regards to the required numbers in the coming 12 months of +400 across the group. No real specific details about any part of the group. But obviously my information might be some what outdated now.
Most likely an interesting year ahead.
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The road shows are being held just to gauge how many female pilots out here. This will give them an indication of how many female cadets they will need to employ when they start the training academy.
This is fact QF are actively only seeking female pilots. Good luck covering the mat leave in the next decade.
Qantas looks to women to solve looming pilot shortage
This is fact QF are actively only seeking female pilots. Good luck covering the mat leave in the next decade.
Qantas looks to women to solve looming pilot shortage
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The road shows are being held just to gauge how many female pilots out here. This will give them an indication of how many female cadets they will need to employ when they start the training academy.
This is fact QF are actively only seeking female pilots. Good luck covering the mat leave in the next decade.
Qantas looks to women to solve looming pilot shortage
This is fact QF are actively only seeking female pilots. Good luck covering the mat leave in the next decade.
Qantas looks to women to solve looming pilot shortage
So other than a media beat up article from over a month ago, do you have anything else to back this 'fact' up? Have you attended one of the roadshows?
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In this day and age? Really? A comment like this?
Fathers take paternity leave these days when babies are born. I wonder how that is being covered.
I seriously hope this comment was just a wind up.
Fathers take paternity leave these days when babies are born. I wonder how that is being covered.
I seriously hope this comment was just a wind up.
The fact is that the current HR management won't have to deal with any leave issues they create by recruiting a large number of women now as by 7-10 years they will have moved on and it will be someone elses problem.
It will be interesting to see if airlines in general will be able to keep female pilots long term.
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It’s a legitimate concern. Are you aware of the difference in the length of maternity leave as opposed to paternity leave?
No it was my lack of recent IF time apparently. I didn't even get a sim. The head of pilot recruitment called me and encouraged me to get some IF time and reapply in 12 months.
That's not the actions of an airline with a shortage. They were interviewing 40 people that week. They are still being picky.
That's not the actions of an airline with a shortage. They were interviewing 40 people that week. They are still being picky.
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Qantas sideshows, err roadshows!
It would appear that the enormity of the demographic shortage is now a big concern in Fort Fumble.
Regional airline 'applicants' are thin on the ground.
Again Qantas pilots may know more, however in past ventures interest was high. We are informed that the capital city (Sydney and Melbourne) was approximately 25% of previous attendances.
The source stated concern is at a high level as crewing shortages increase pressure on executive management, both in regional subsidiaries and increasingly mainline.
Problematic appeared the gross number of applicants and the composition of the 'pool'
Internal applicants represented approximately 30% of total applicants, with total applicants less than 800.
With the released training totals (for Qantas pilots) this may well again be a topic of conversation at the next board meeting.
Executive management will be quietly hoping some sort of crisis emerges.
It would appear that the enormity of the demographic shortage is now a big concern in Fort Fumble.
Regional airline 'applicants' are thin on the ground.
Again Qantas pilots may know more, however in past ventures interest was high. We are informed that the capital city (Sydney and Melbourne) was approximately 25% of previous attendances.
The source stated concern is at a high level as crewing shortages increase pressure on executive management, both in regional subsidiaries and increasingly mainline.
Problematic appeared the gross number of applicants and the composition of the 'pool'
Internal applicants represented approximately 30% of total applicants, with total applicants less than 800.
With the released training totals (for Qantas pilots) this may well again be a topic of conversation at the next board meeting.
Executive management will be quietly hoping some sort of crisis emerges.
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And yes, I agree with sentiments above regarding maternity leave. A push to employ a larger than normal ratio of female pilots will result in a greater than normal amount of maternity leave in 5 or so years.
No, it will be something far more stupid like ‘lacking company spirit’ or ‘lacking empathy’... both reasons that I have heard from unsuccessful internal male applicants.
And yes, I agree with sentiments above regarding maternity leave. A push to employ a larger than normal ratio of female pilots will result in a greater than normal amount of maternity leave in 5 or so years.
And yes, I agree with sentiments above regarding maternity leave. A push to employ a larger than normal ratio of female pilots will result in a greater than normal amount of maternity leave in 5 or so years.
Regardless of anybody's view around maternity leave, it is actually unlawful for an employer to discriminate against a potential employee based on the potential for them to become pregnant.
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Although, it’s apparently quite legal, in fact politically correct, for an employer to discriminate against a male applicant. To put in another way using your vernacular, the legality to discriminate against an individual, is inversely proportional to the likelihood of said individual becoming pregnant.
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Although, it’s apparently quite legal, in fact politically correct, for an employer to discriminate against a male applicant. To put in another way using your vernacular, the legality to discriminate against an individual, is inversely proportional to the likelihood of said individual becoming pregnant.
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Ask them about the ratio of male cadets who were unsuccessful vs the ratio of female cadets that were unsuccessful of those that were forced to slum it on the turboprop fleet when mainline had them all reapply for their jobs.
Nunc est bibendum
Still not great numbers given 200-300 may have been those who missed out last year.
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However if we want to be specific, we can look straight towards our own government when it comes to women going into the Air Force.
Minimum period of service for male pilots - 11.5 years.
Minimum period of service for female pilots - 6 years.
Female university students also have exclusive access to the Graduate Pilot Scheme.
They claim that the Graduate Pilot Scheme is only in a 'trial' period and they'll open it to men as well after that trial period, however it has been on a trial period for years and it's obvious that's just their attempt to protect themselves from accusations of discrimination.
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I believe it was said more in a general sense, rather than being specific to Qantas.
However if we want to be specific, we can look straight towards our own government when it comes to women going into the Air Force.
Minimum period of service for male pilots - 11.5 years.
Minimum period of service for female pilots - 6 years.
Female university students also have exclusive access to the Graduate Pilot Scheme.
They claim that the Graduate Pilot Scheme is only in a 'trial' period and they'll open it to men as well after that trial period, however it has been on a trial period for years and it's obvious that's just their attempt to protect themselves from accusations of discrimination.
However if we want to be specific, we can look straight towards our own government when it comes to women going into the Air Force.
Minimum period of service for male pilots - 11.5 years.
Minimum period of service for female pilots - 6 years.
Female university students also have exclusive access to the Graduate Pilot Scheme.
They claim that the Graduate Pilot Scheme is only in a 'trial' period and they'll open it to men as well after that trial period, however it has been on a trial period for years and it's obvious that's just their attempt to protect themselves from accusations of discrimination.
In fact the RAAF was forefront in my thinking when making that comment. My nephew has just been through the whole RAAF pilot recruitment nightmare. After being recommended in the top 25% of applicants following his flight screening he was not offered a position in the RAAF. The Navy took him instead.
I was told by a good mate I served with, who’s still in the RAAF, that this year’s ADFA RAAF Pilot intake only took TEN MALES the rest of the intake was reserved for women only. Usually a course is about 30.
My nephew was told that if he performs well on Navy pilots’ course, and still wants to fly jets, the RAAF will welcome him with open arms. The Navy and the RAAF do the same pilots’ course.
While the Marise Payne’s of this world can make these daft policy decisions, it’s the military that have to pick up the pieces. The RAAF fully expect an increase in pilots’ course scrub rates directly attributed to a recruiting culture where what’s between your legs (or isn’t) is of more importance than what’s between your ears. Problem is, they still have to crew aircraft. If they can poach them from the Navy, they will.
This type of blatant discrimination is not only legal, it’s encouraged in our PC world.
That, ladies and gentlemen, is where your tax dollars are going. Funding social engineering projects.
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Unfortunately this is not of Payne’s doing and will not disappear when she does. These types of practices started well before her time by ‘senior leaders’ who have become more political in their outlook than focusing on their core responsibilities. And they wonder why retention of certain skill-sets has become a problem.